Worst wildcat attempts??

You missed the worst problem with wildcats.

I have a .35 Brown-Whelen. I can drive a 225 grain Nosler Partition Jacket at an honest 2800 fps. I WANT a .338 Win Mag or a .375 H&H Mag -- but how can I justify a new rifle that barely outperforms what I already have?

Some of the earlier posts put the 30 T/C in the "useless" category.

Keep in mind that this, and other unsuccessful new cartridges, work perfectly well. They just don't do anything sufficiently different to supplant more established cartridges. BUT this can give you an opportunity.

I got a 30 T/C Icon at a very low price. I bought enough brass to last a LONG time at my rate of consumption and I now have a 30 caliber hunting rifle good for 99+% of anything a 308 or 30-06 can do.

For handloaders unsuccessful cartridges can be a great opportunity.

Good Luck.

Dan

The ammo.. 338win mag is easier to find atleast where I live and there's more options for it however 375h&h is a little hard to find(yet easier than the whelen)

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You can find .35 Whelen and .35 Brown-Whelen brass everywhere. It's headstamped ".30-06."

I prime a .30-06 case, drop in a few grains of Bullseye, and add a quarter sheet of toilet paper just to keep things neat, then chamber it and pull the trigger. BOOM! When I open the bolt, out pops a .35 Brown-Whelen case.

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So, the AR15 was allowed into 3Gun competition, but the wildcat? That .30 x 5.56 cartridge that was only meant to force the organizers to allow use of the gun in competition remained a rarely used wildcat until one developer found it's niche. Otherwise it was largely shunned by the shooting public for over 30 years.

Until AAC resurrected it for suppressed use, and Remington put some marketing muscle behind it as the .300 Blackout, leaving the .300 Whisper a shell of it's promise.

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I'm not sure that the .30X556 wildcat is what precipitated ar-15s being allowed in 3-gun. I'm pretty sure it was the change of staff at the SOF 3-gun match that did so.

I'm not sure that the .30X556 wildcat is what precipitated ar-15s being allowed in 3-gun. I'm pretty sure it was the change of staff at the SOF 3-gun match that did so.

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Quite agree, the .30x5.56 failed miserably in getting AR's into 3Gun. The staff was dead set against them and used every means at their disposal to prevent it, even if the gun and competitor met the letter of the rules.

The staff changing was likely accomplished simply by age and attrition, which allowed others in who had no preconceived notions and saw the handwriting on the wall. By then must of the world was turning over their .308 battle rifle stocks and selling off the ammo in an accelerating move to 5.56 and AR type rifles.

As the Army continued to exercise the tactical applications of intermediates and shooters realized that was where the game was going, they got on the bandwagon. As usual, it was a slow and conservative change that happened after the armed forces had already done it.

The old guard had to get out of the way for the next generation.

Roy Weatherby necked his .378 Wby down to .22.... was getting velocity above 6,000 fps...

Hey guys i was just reading on some wildcats Specificly the 22-243, I know the 243 is a little "brutal" on barrel life.

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IMO: The .22-243 should be a factory caliber.

i presently have the .22 Cheetah MKI with a 28" barrel. The Cheetah is the .308 bench rest case necked down, turned and blown out to a 40 degree shoulder. The present barrel has just over 1,200 high velocity rounds through it with no loss of accuracy.

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"i presently have the .22 Cheetah MKI with a 28" barrel. The Cheetah is the .308 bench rest case necked down, turned and blown out to a 40 degree shoulder. The present barrel has just over 1,200 high velocity rounds through it with no loss of accuracy."

This reflects my experience exactly. I have .22 CHeetahs, both I & II, and have well over 1000 rounds through both and accuracy is still tops. I've tried bunches of different wildcats and in my experience the CHeetah delivers significant accuracy and velocity advantages over standard calibers in it's class