Steel cased round stuck in AR-15 chamber

How much cleaning rod is sticking out of the muzzle at this point?

If there is a few inches sticking out to play with?

Clamp a pair of vice-grips sideways on the end of the rod.
(You can take the flash hider off to gain a little more rod)

Then slip the rod vertically between a set of loose vice jaws.
Put a folded rug under it to catch the lower when the rod lets go!

Now use the weight of the upper receiver & barrel as a slide hammer to jerk the cleaning rod out of the barrel.

Once that is out of the way, use more oil, and use a section of bore size slip-fit steel rod to go back in and drive the live round out.

rc

So, the rod is broke off 4" - 6" inside the muzzle of the barrel???
With a live round stuck in the chamber???

Is that what you are saying??

rc

Well, the only thing I can dream up this last at night is too cook it off, and at least get the case, primer, and powder out of it.

Note: I am not condoning this, nor recommending it.

But, at this point, I would rig up a wood clamp / V-block type thing to hold the barrel breech in place pointed at a safe backstop.

With the V-block rigged so a lit propane torch could be kicked over and concentrate the flame on the case head.

Then run like the wind, and Duck & Cover.

The case & primer will be blown out at very high velocity, when the torch cooks it off at least.

Leaving you two ends of the bore to get too without shooting your eye out pounding on it.

You need to get the loaded round out to safely do anything else to it!
Then pour more penetrating oil in both ends and let it stew a couple of days.

That's all I got this late at night???

rc

I would focus on removing the primer and powder charge. After that everything else you try will be a lot safer atleast.

I would focus on removing the primer and powder charge.

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Yeah, that should be easy.

How in the heck do you propose removing a primer from a loaded cartridge, from the outside of the case stuck in a barrel, without risking your fingers (at a minimum) when the round goes off, as it most probably will?

With a pin vice, hand drill a small hole next to the primer, and fill case with oil. Then drill out primer, tap back of case 1/4-20 and pull out case.

I wouldn't touch the primer! In a situation like that it sounds like the barrel is toast. Even if you get the round to go off (without injuring yourself or starting a fire) you will still have the front of the case still stuck in the chamber with nothing to work from (bullet still seated in case). Those Russian rounds have one heck of a tight bullet in the case. Good luck getting it to move. This guy should chock this one up to stupidity and move on. That's the cost of using a cleaning rod for anything but cleaning.

might try compressed air at the gas port maybe one of the obstructions will pop out.

I would soak the barrel/chamber with a good penetrating fluid like Kroil or PB Blaster,ATF works well too. I would get a piece of 5mm O-1 drill rod and try to "persuade" the offending cleaning rod to continue its journey towards the chamber with the offending round. 5mm drill rod works well for stuck bullets(223/556) and is always in my range/bench kit,makes dandy Star PD firing pins too

How much is a new barrel? I'm no gunsmith, but this sounds like a recipe for disaster. I wouldn't screw with a live round.

Sounds like using great care and drilling next to primer then killing the charge is the way to go if you feel you must salvage the barrel. I don't have a clue as to how that primer will react so I'd probably prime a shell and fill it with a penetrent, set for a few days then carefully drill out and see what happens.
If results are satisfactory do the same with the live round.
A new barrel would be cheaper, there's probably more going on down there than just a stuck shell.

Oh, it wouldn't blow the barrel up.

It will just blow the case out and make it safe to work on.

As it stands now, it isn't even safe to dispose of.

rc

Oh, it wouldn't blow the barrel up.

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This is correct. The worse possible outcome would be the round doesn't cook off. If it does cook all that will happen is the case will pop out in ways you cant imagine.

hondavf1000r said:

With a pin vice, hand drill a small hole next to the primer, and fill case with oil. Then drill out primer, tap back of case 1/4-20 and pull out case.

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Good luck. At the very least invest in the best safety glasses you can find and a full faceshield. You can probably get the brass chips out of your body when the round goes off, but you won't be able to replace your eyes.

About 10 years ago a friend of mine wanted me to make him up a dozen dummy 45 Colt rounds, with no dents in the primer.

I soaked 50 primers in a cup of Wd40 for a week. Took 5 out after a week, loaded them in a case, and tried to fire them. All 5 fired perfectly.

Pulled 5 more out a week later. 5 out of 5 fired again, after 2 weeks of soaking.

5 more after 3 weeks - 5 out of 5 fired again.

5 more after a month - 5 out of 5 fired again.

I used the last 30 primers that had been soaking for a month to load some 255 grain SWC. All 30 rounds shot perfectly normal.

I finally ended up using an exacto knife to carefully pick the anvil and charging pellet out of some primers to make the dummys, leaving just the cup.

I second RC's method. I had the same thing but I removed the barrel from the receiver and strapped it to some old tires and lit the torch. Of course I removed the cleaning rod first.

RC MODEL Not 45! has about the best solution to neutralize the charge.

Propane torch the primer end of the bullet/barrel area, and run for cover.

the primer will blow out with nothing to hold it in place, then drill and tap a slide hammer to pull out the cartridge.

NOW look in the barrel and find out what is stopping the cleaning rod from the other end.

MIght be another round stuck in the barrel.

be safe

The cleaning rod won't become ejecta, and neither will the bullet.

Maybe even the case will stay in the chamber.

I cooked off this .223 inside an aluminum tube.
And all it did was blow the primer out and burn the powder out through the flash hole like a little rocket.



rc

Getting the side of the chamber hot enough to cook off will probably change the metallurgy of the barrel. Just cut the barrel half way through the chamber if you intend to scrap the barrel.
Neutralizing the propellant is what you need to do no matter what, the choice is in how much risk you wish to take in doing it.

I'm kinda thinking bandsaw at low speed cutting through chamber, round, and anything else in the way far enough forward to clear the casehead, far enough back to clear the bullet. Safe disposal done in a simple manner.

I never said anything about heating the barrel red hot to cook off the round.

I said,

With the V-block rigged so a lit propane torch could be kicked over and concentrate the flame on the case head.

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Sawing the barrel off in the middle of a live round is almost sure to create enough heat or sparks to blow it up in your face!!!!

Don't even try doing that!!!!

rc