Why are the employees at the LGS/Range armed?

Obvious troll should go back to Democratic Underground where it belongs.

This is just a stupid question, no offense. It's a gun store. If you aren't going to carry there, where are you going to carry.

Here is a excellent reason. My good friend, Tracy Allen, died defending his LGS in 2001.

http://jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/102201/D7FA3ETO0.html

14 long years and we still remember the good hearted, wonderful Tracy.

Allen, a 48-year-old married father of three who lived above the gun shop, died in the store in the Miami's southern suburbs.

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And to add, virtually all South Florida gun shop employees are armed, Open Carrying.

Either we do not watch the same news channels or things on your planet are all rainbows and unicorns; if so congratulations sir!

I've wrestled with reality and so far haven't been able to over come it. With old age comes hope though. Until then i'm packin' too.

There is another astoundingly, face-smackingly, simple answer as well.

SALES!!!!

Gun shops make money by... selling guns! Carry guns are a very very VERY hot segment of the market. Walking to a shop and seeing employees with the latest and greatest on their hip makes one want to buy it! You're seeing the gun in action. It's a walking display!

I have an LGS where the owner carries a Wilson Combat 1911 on his hip. They are a WC dealer, and he carries.... ready for the shocker... in the same holsters they sell, right there on the shelf in the store. I know. Shocking season finale. Let me give you a minute to adjust.

Just about every time I go into the LGS, one of the guys behind the counter is discussing carry options with a customer. And very very frequently, it leads into "well, what I have here is a X model. I use the thus and such holster and it is just fantastic. I carry all day here in the store, and it's never uncomfortable. I even use the belts that we sell right here!"

Security... yes. Absolutely 100% a concern, and something for which I have no doubts they are prepped. But for every attack on a gun shop, there are probably tens of thousands of sales. Which one do you think they are more concerned with on a day to day basis?

what element of surprise?....youre robbing a gun store, i dont think its a surprise to anyone that the staff would be armed...

why change?...well for one, no matter how comfortable of a CC holster you have...OC is FAR more comfortable, so if you are standing around all day in a gun store, i know ide OC if i could.

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Anyone stupid enough to hold up a gun store is also stupid enough to think they aren't armed if they can't see a gun on them.

Not all places allow open carry, and not all places LIKE open carry, so if I have to conceal outside the store, I see no reason to change every time I walk out the door.

The one store I know of locally that was robbed and the (lone) )employee was armed, they simply shot him the second they stepped through the door

If it posts like a troll and reasons like a troll, it probably is a troll.

The one store I know of locally that was robbed and the (lone) )employee was armed, they simply shot him the second they stepped through the door

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i doubt being armed was a factor in that....chances are they would have shot him whether he was armed or not.....

theres no honor among theives....if they are going to shoot shoot someone, they arent going to check to see if hes armed to make sure its "fair"

i doubt being armed was a factor in that....chances are they would have shot him whether he was armed or not.....

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That's just your speculation
What I posted is what actually happened

It's impossible to predict what an irrational person might do

Snyper said:

Anyone stupid enough to hold up a gun store is also stupid enough to think they aren't armed if they can't see a gun on them.

Not all places allow open carry, and not all places LIKE open carry, so if I have to conceal outside the store, I see no reason to change every time I walk out the door.

The one store I know of locally that was robbed and the (lone) )employee was armed, they simply shot him the second they stepped through the door

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Is there a full moon tonight?

Worked in a gun store for six years. Always carried. Always concealed. Boss carried open.
First incident, luckily no harm, group comes in, looked at the car they came in, parked backed in to the slot (not normal). One employee called in the plate while they "looked around". Cops showed up five minutes later, arrested the bunch. Stolen car. Two of the four armed.
Second incident. Again, no harm, guy comes in, May timeframe. Hoodie, hands in pocket, ski mask. I pulled my shirt up, hand on gun, "CAN I HELP YOU?" in a loud voice..I know, caps are shouting. "What?" "Can I help you?"....."OH ****. He pulled his cap off, dropped the hoodie, and with a sheepish grin. said "Cold wind out there."
Third incident, one of many, "girl comes in followed by a guy in gangbanger clothes. She applies for a FOID (Illinois thing, don't ask), he starts pulling shotguns off the rack. I tell him, "you have to have a FOID to handle those." "I don't need no F*&^&**&g foid to handle these". "In Illinois you do." She tells me, "don't worry, I'll take care of it and walks him out." He's arrested a few hours later for something unrelated.
We were in a low crime area.
All our regular customers knew we were armed, and the word got out that we were.
I don't get why range officers feel the need to go armed. Who's going to rob them?
On the other hand, where is the best place to steal a bunch of guns but a gun shop.
Question????

That's just your speculation
What I posted is what actually happened

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well seeing as we dont know the motives behind the shooting....you insinuating that he was shot for OCing is equally speculative......

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So the general consensus here is "to deter robbery". That actually hadn't occurred to me, as gun stores rank fairly low on armed robbery frequency.

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Then that deterrence must be working, huh?

well seeing as we dont know the motives behind the shooting....you insinuating that he was shot for OCing is equally speculative.....

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I never said nor insinuated that at all.

I simply stated the facts of the incident and offered no conclusions as to "why" it happened the way it did

I know I prefer to keep them guessing as to whether I have a loaded gun

Is there a full moon tonight?

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Here's the site you're looking for:

http://lunaf.com/english/moon-phases/lunar-calendar-2015/04/15/

Waning Crescent

The original question in this thread seems poorly thought out. Here are a few things:

1) One reason gun stores are safe and rarely robbed is because the criminals know the employees are armed. Take that away, you take away the safety aspect.

2) People working at gun stores are usually into guns. By extension, it's not odd to see them carrying one.

3) Why does this even concern you? You're also presumably a gun guy if you're on this forum. Does it bother you that gun people in a gun store are wearing guns?

Perhaps watch the pawn shop video (YouTube) where two 'customers' hang around a short while looking at items. The shop has more than a few guns on display, but this would not matter.

Suddenly both low-lifes pull out their own guns. I don't remember who shoots first, but the two chunky guys who work there duck to the floor, and being on their bellies, are Unable to pull their guns from their front pockets (after all those years of training-for this).

The lady at the rear/side of the shop stays On her feet, really amazing, exchanging shots for more than a few seconds. The staff all survived.
Don't remember about the thugs.

Words like this appear in many state and commonwealth constitutions:

"The right of no person to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or in aid of the civil power when thereto legally summoned, shall be called in question"

So quit questioning it.

you'd think that convenience stores and gas stations would start to do the same since they're the #1 target

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1. gas stations/convenience stores tend to be corporate owned or franchises.

2. even independently owned gas stations/convenience stores have to be seen as welcoming to the general public. many potential customers would be off put by the sight of an armed clerk.

3. who nows how many gas stations/convenience store clerks are carrying concealed.

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rcmodel said:

Maybe something like this??

http://fox4kc.com/2015/01/13/follow...r-gun-shops-review-policies-take-precautions/

rc

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This: “I’m a firm believer in that if you let evil dictate what good people do, they win,” Bill Basore said. “The good people always have to prevail.”

I'm not sure how this question can actually be asked, let alone answered, with a straight face. To somehow take offense to the idea range officers and shop employees....in a gun shop...were actually CARRYING GUNS.... just baffles me. I can't think of any place I'd be more expectant of seeing people armed, unless I was visiting a police station or military base. the reasons are varied as to why, but "because they lawfully can" is reason enough for me.

As a warning that high value inventory, not to mention high value human beings, will be protected. You'll notice many of the stores are surveilled and have "hardened" windows, doors, locks and such. In the commercial nuclear industry it's referred to as "defense in depth", i.e. not just one, but many deterrents.

This does have to be one of the silliest questions I've seen asked, but that's ok. If folks can't come ask the questions, here, that others think are "silly,""self-explanatory," "blatantly obvious," or embarrassing, where else will they go to get their answers? And who do we want answering the "dumb" questions for our inexperienced younger members? The patient, experienced, thoughtful folks who participate here? Or the biased, dimwits who post in news site comments sections or on "eHow?"



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