why is every gun store employee armed?

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I once talked to a guy at the gun shop here in town, and when I said I could never understand why people would rob gun stores and how it's obviously a terrible idea; he countered with the fact that they really don't do anything when someone steals, to stop them anyway.
He informed me they have about 25 cameras in the store (It's true) in all different angles, and they have all serials on file. If someone steals, they just call the police and hand over the tapes. So far nobody has gotten away with it from what he said.
 
HorseSoldier said:
While "Oxyconting Factory" might be a more popular dream target for serious criminals, an armed robbery of a gun store would easily set someone up for more/better crimes later as well as providing lots of portable wealth that could be sold on down the line to generate funds.
This. And because drug factories KNOW what their product is worth on the street (and have to deal with the DEA for accountability), and have security that rivals nuclear installations... while gun stores (and jewelry stores, and pawn shops - which are mostly combination gun/jewelry stores) are often just storefront businesses with (comparatively) minimal security measures.
 
Imagine how bad it would look for gun owners as a whole if a place armed to the teeth was robbed at gunpoint. The antis would get so much fuel to say "See these armed professionals couldn't even defend themselves, how can regular civilians do so? Guns can only be used for evil!" That's why they have to be able to defend themselves.
 
Friend of mine started working at a gun store after he got out of the Army. His boss sold him a Sig at cost, because the guy didn't own a gun (!) and the boss insisted that every employee go armed at work. Said it keeps them safe.

I'd believe that. Lots of them have "shop" guns, too.
 
I for one like it. I wish open carry were more common. However, if there is one safe place to do it, that would be it...
 
How many gun stores you hear about being robbed?

OC can be a deterrent and not make you a target:rolleyes:.

For me it depends I feel some guys do it for attention, some to sell products, and some are legitimately concerned.

At a local pawn shop a guy OC 2 glock 19's with 33rders :rolleyes:
 
well, lets see. a complete stranger walks through the door (about 60% of all their traffic). looks around for a bit, and asks to see xxx pistol. the sales person hands the "customer" the firearm after making sure it is clear. the "customer" is fondleing it, and some distraction (another customer, telephone, boss, etc.) gets the salesmans attention. and the "customer: drops the empty magazine to the floor by pressing one button, then slips a loaded magazine into the gun. now what?! it can happen in less than 2 seconds. then you not only have a salesman as a hostage, but every person in the store. THAT is why they carry a locked and loaded pistol on their hip!
 
I used to work in a Gun store. It was requirement to wear a gun exposed.
Except for the owner. I got to thinking if we were robbed, who would the
robber shoot? I got to feeling like a decoy. I quit .
 
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I used to work in a gun shop. I noticed one or two rugged individuals with decidedly larcenous looks in their eyes on the way through the front doors, then very wide eyes when they noticed we were carrying.
 
It's kinda like asking why every employee in a surf store likes to surf. o_O

Niche stores don't attract the same sales people that your run of the mill store does, which is both a good and a bad thing ... while I don't like being around some of the people that work in gun stores it's better than having Susie Doe there who is just putting in her twenty hours to pay her car insurance and who would rather be folding t-shirts.
 
Seriously, does anybody know of a successful gun store robbery during operating hours?
Sure....It happened just this past February at 'The Powder Room' in Powell, Ohio.

"A surveillance video from Feb. 19 shows Robert W. E. Phillips, 26, renting the Glock 22 .40-caliber and Springfield XD9 9mm handguns and taking them out to his car after he told workers he needed to get bullets. He never returned with the guns." It was all caught on video.
Worse yet....One of the guns was later used to shoot 'at' a Columbus police officer.

I snagged this link quickly....gives you the basics:
http://www.snponline.com/articles/2011/03/15/multiple_papers/news/allovpowde_20110315_0621am_2.txt
 
I've only seen employees carrying in one gun store I've ever been in. That was in Tennessee. Here in Illinois we aren't allowed to protect ourselves outside of our homes (shoot, you could debate inside of our homes).
 
You Probably Wouldn't Have Bought From Me Then..!!

It was stated in part by EarlTheGoat 2..

I actually judge the sales personel based on what they are carrying.

What!!? You judge the sales person based on what he/she's carrying. How closed minded is that? I'm the first one to admit I don't like Glocks, ie: Having the safety in the middle of their trigger (which is like having the brake in the middle of the gas peddle), but just because the sales person owns/has/wears a Glock doesn't mean I'm not going to purchase a firearm from them.. well maybe not a Glock, but..

If someone is carrying any weapon out of production then you might see me raise an eyebrow.

And why would you do that. There could be many a reason why he/she's carrying the particular sidearm they do.. and because they do, THAT is a good enough reason to question their...... what!!? Give me a break. I've yet to see a correlation between what someone in a gun shop owns/carries and how it pertains to their firearms knowledge and abilities.

You could have a salesperson carrying the most recent up to date finest revolver/pistol in production.. and not know a thing, or he/she could be carrying a 35 year old out of production piece and be the most knowledgeable gun expert around for a 100 miles.

I'm glad you have the ability to distinguish between the two just by looking at the sidearm they're carrying.

Long story short, I am going to try to get the guy who shares my tastes in guns to buy a gun from.

Which, in my opinion, limits you to what your "tastes" think you need.. and not what you should really be getting.

As someone who use to run/manage a very successful full service gun shop (until I retired), I've been down the road with customers who thought the same as you, ie: their "TASTE" in what they wanted overshadowed what they really needed to get.

Of course I never argued with them because in a lot of cases, a week (or month) later they returned with their "taste" to trade in and buy something different (which means I made just that much more off of them), because they found out what they had purchased was too big of a caliber for their wife to handle.. or the wife felt the semi-auto had too many levers and buttons on it (where the revolver she saw was more simple.. and after all, it had pink grips that matched her _______ ).. or.. or. Well you get my drift.

I've owned and have been shooting all types of firearms for over 50 plus years now.. and have been carrying for well over 40 of them. With that being said, I guess because of your "taste" in firearms you "wouldn't have purchased a firearm from me/or the store" because of my "out of production" 20 year old CC FireStar M-40 in .40 S&W.

It's too bad one has so many preconceived erroneous notions about a sales persons knowledge and abilities just by looking at his/her sidearm

Single Action Six
 
Theives don't always have clear thinking.

There was a story I heard of about a tweaker breaking into a Subway via a ventillator shaft at 430 am, got himself stuck. No burgler tools, no torch to cut open a safe, etc. I don't know if the guy just had a serious hankering for a 6 inch BMT at 0 dark thirty, but he somehow had enough reasoning to not just smash the glass out front.

There have been multiple threads on here about gun shop robberies and attempted robberies.

If I worked in a gun shop I'd carry all the time.
 
There are some who are not too bright. This event happened several years ago at a GUN SHOP! From the Darwin Awards.

The following mind-boggling attempt at a crime spree appeared to be the robber's first, due to his lack of a previous record of violence, and his terminally stupid choices:

1. His target was H&J Leather & Firearms. A gun shop.

2. The shop was full of customers - firearms customers.

3. To enter the shop, the robber had to step around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door.

4. A uniformed officer was standing at the counter, having coffee before work.

Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a holdup, and fired a few wild shots. The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, covered by several customers who also drew their guns, thereby removing the confused criminal from the gene pool.

No one else was hurt.
 
for those of us that cant carry at work ask yourself... if policy changed or I worked somewhere that allowed me carry a firearm would I?

my answer is yes
 
:scrutiny:I like the stores that have the no carry signs up and then you walk in and everyone who works there is open carrying.:scrutiny:

Just what exactly are they worried about????!!!!

I dont see why they cant just carry concealed. That is what I always did when I worked at two different shops. A few of my co workers open carried but most carried concealed.
 
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