XDS .45 3.3 versus 4.0

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I purchased the XDS .45 3.3 over a year ago to use as a concealed piece. It took a number of trips to Springfield and my local gun smith to get it to feed reliably, but once it did it was an excellent choice. The issue I ran into, however, was the recoil. Over the years I broke my right wrist once and the hand twice, and those injuries have started to take their toll. At most, I was able to put 200 rounds through it before my wrist was throbbing and I had to stop. I really liked the gun, wanted to keep it and wanted to be able to shoot it enough to be proficient with it, with the understanding that it was never meant to be a range gun.

Enter the 4.0. I heard that the increased barrel length reduced it's recoil and made it more accurate. I was skeptical that an increase of .7 inches could make much of a difference, but took a chance on it when Bud's had one with the essential option at a price I couldn't turn down. The difference has been considerable. I was at the range with it last week and put almost 400 rounds through it with no pain in my wrist. Had I brought more ammo, I could have kept going. I won't tell you it's gentle, as it's still a 23.5 ounce gun shooting .45's, but the difference in recoil from the 3.3 is noticeable. In addition to the reduced recoil, it seems to be more accurate than the 3.3, as my groupings were much tighter.

With a width of less than an inch and at 23.5 ounces, it's easy to carry all day. The 5 round magazine makes it easy to conceal when necessary, with the option of 7 + 1 in what's still a concealable gun. Springfield recently released a 6 round magazine, which seems to strike the perfect balance between capacity and conceal-ability. The magazines are thin, so it's easy to carry a couple of them, giving you 22 rounds of .45 if you're concerned about capacity. If you've been holding off on one due to the recoil of the 3.3, which a few of my friends are, I'd recommend renting one if possible and giving the 4.0 a try.
 
Thanks for sharing that, TomJ.

In general, the problem with concealed carry is the grip-size.

I sometimes carry a 3.3XDs45 that I bought in 2013 and really like the piece ... even at the range.

If, when I made the purchasing decision, both the 3.3 and 4.0 were available, I would have chosen the 4.0 for what I would have assumed would be a slightly milder & more accurate pistol ... that was equally easy to conceal.

I haven't made a decision on the 6-rounders yet, although I purchased one to test. I have a number of 5s to which I added heavily modded Pearce extensions which will allow 3-finger placement in minimum length.
 
Why do so many think a longer barrel makes a handgun more accurate?
I do not.
 
I wanted a pocket 45 before the XDs was even a thought, so I went the only available rout at the time, the KAHR PM45. The recoil was less than I expected but it still packed a punch.

While the recoil didn't bother me much the muzzle jump did, after talking to several people I decided to have it Mag-na-ported. I will say I noticed a significant decrease in recoil and muzzle jump. For only $150 I concider it money well spent.


Just a thought.
 
I wanted a pocket 45 before the XDs was even a thought, so I went the only available rout at the time, the KAHR PM45. The recoil was less than I expected but it still packed a punch.

While the recoil didn't bother me much the muzzle jump did, after talking to several people I decided to have it Mag-na-ported. I will say I noticed a significant decrease in recoil and muzzle jump. For only $150 I concider it money well spent.


Just a thought.
Thanks for the suggestion. It's at my LGS having night sites put on it, but when I pick it up later this week I'm going to send it to Mag-na-port. For a concealed piece, I think it's worth doing whatever possible to further reduce the recoil.
 
The longer sight radius aids in improving accuracy.
Exactly. The longer sight radius aids in improving accuracy.
all adjustments easier. On a handgun though, you really don't get any more accuracy, only velocity.
 
... On a handgun though, you really don't get any more accuracy, only velocity.

Clamped in a pistol vise, there is probably no increase in accuracy, in my hand I have found that there is (although at ~¾" the improvement would be small, which is why I used the modifier "slightly").

This is one of the reasons that I like (and own so many) TT33s and Variants. They are small pistols with the exception of that lonnnngslide ... which helps me to more accurately shoot items at longer ranges.

I am even contemplating getting a Glock 41 for its longslide enhanced sight-radius ... I am fighting the urge, but the GSSF Coupon is dragging me down. ;)
 
I got the 3.3 XDs because thats all they had out at the time. it would be nice
if you could just buy the barrel and slide
 
Thank you for the insight into this gun.

I've never owned any XD before but once in a while my thoughts drift in the direction of acquiring an XDS 4.0 in 45acp.

To my mind this gun is almost like an updated ultramodern take on a 1911. It's got a polymer frame for less weight, no thumb safety for more simplicity, but retains the same grip angle (I think), the same slim slide, the grip safety, and a 7-round single-stack mag.

Very tempting.
 
The 7rd mag is considered too big for carry and the 5rd too small but SA came out with a 6rd option that I bought a few of and it seems perfect for carry.
 
Why do so many think a longer barrel makes a handgun more accurate?
I do not.

I agree with the other posters who replied to this question. There is only one other component to the accuracy that I can think of that was not mention. That is the reduced recoil due to additional weight out front. By reducing muzzle rise/flip/recoil (whichever manifestation you want to refer to) you ken get back on target faster and get more accurate followup shots.
 
So how do those of you that have had the 3.3 45 for a while now feel about it? Have range trips been productive? Are you comfortable with it as an EDC? How does the concealability compare to say a commander sized 1911? What holsters are you using? Any ammo to stay away from? Let me know your thoughts. I'm just about ready to "pull the trigger" on a new one.
 
I like mine very much, carry quite a bit, and it's my primary carry gun.
I've hiked a whole lot of miles with it in my waistband.
It's smaller and lighter than a commander sized 1911 so I imagine it's easier to conceal.
It's an accurate and fun range gun.
It has never malfunctioned.
I like the 3.3 inch barrel since it is slightly easier to conceal. It's also the only length that was available at the time.
I carry mine in a Hidded a Hybrid Holster.
 
I like my 3.3 alot. I'm plenty accurate with it and balances well. I haven't handled the 4.0.
 
I bought the 4.0 to replace the 3.3, but could never get myself to part with the 3.3 so I still own both. As others have mentioned, the 3.3 may be a little easier to conceal given that it has a shorter barrel. I haven't found the barrel length to be an issue to conceal, since I carry the 4.0 IWB. The 4.0 seems to have less recoil and for me is easier to shoot. I'd recommend either.

I do have a commander size 1911, and the XDS is much easier to carry given the difference in weight and size.
 
Not to deviate too far from the OP, but I've now seen a compact 3.3" XDM45, which I have to say sounds dead sexy. Anyone out there done a head-to-head with the XDS? Thanks in advance!
 
I am more of a revolver guy, but if I buy a semi-auto it is going to be either an XDs 3.3 or a 4.0. Would be a nice match with my Blackhawk 4 5/8" bbl 45ACP/45Colt convertible.
 
I have the 3.3" XDS 45. Also have an officer sized Colt which is smaller than the commander size you mention. The XDS is night and day when it comes to carrying for any length of time. Much lighter and a little thinner than the Colt Officer. Pocket/mouse guns aside, It's easier for me to conceal IWB than anything else I've tried, and I've been through a few!

For such a small gun it's pretty comfortable to shoot and has fed everything reliably, including my reloads. I carry it IWB in a kydex holster made locally. I say go for it. I would have gotten the 4" (and still may) but the shop had the 3.3 for a good bit cheaper, the 4.0 was very new at the time. Here's a shot of what I carry it in.

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