Profiled at MO Conservation range

"Paranoia will destroy ya."

I'm not at all familiar with CETME's, but would this change be enough to trip someone's suspicion button?To me it sounds a little like screwing a fake can onto the barrel. Why???

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Its a very minor difference in how the front of the trigger group attaches.

Similar experience? You bet.

Two different ranges in California, very much the same experience and outcome.

One was a range in Glendora... Azusa(?), California and the other was a range down near the border below San Diego. Can't recall the range names but locals will know them as the only near-by alternatives.

Anyhow, as they were so much alike excluding agencies, I'll treat them as a single narrative.

I'm shooting the things, having a time and Law Dog rolls up on my ejected brass, scrutinizes it with the half-information they've been given in briefings (along with all the other stuff they have to worry about) and waits for me to finish my iteration of firing.

An aggressive conversation/field interrogation commences regarding my LC brass and demanding to know my source to include receipts....

I grow bored.

One would probably need to know me personally to believe the next but there you go.

I jump straight to "It's legal - arrest me, call your supervisor or leave me be."

Clearly did not remain as simple as I'm stating but in both cases a supervisor arrived on the scene, in both cases Barney Fife was chastised and in both cases the supervisor thanked me for the manner in which I handled my side of the interaction.

Lots of Lawmen out there are misinformed about the legality of surplus ammo - reloads or otherwise. All a lot of them remember from some previous harried briefing is that that brass (some) with the LC on it is; illegal, stolen or inherently more dangerous.

Todd.

ApacheCoTodd,

That's really strange. I never realized that anyone would think that having LC brass was illegal. Granted, you're talking about California, but still. LC brass is incredibly common, so the field interrogation because of your use of it seems entirely bizarre to me.

I'm in law enforcement, and I think I'd have been even less polite with some idiot accusing me of unlawful activity because of my use of that brass. You can buy ammo at Cabelas loaded in LC brass!

"Now why would someone put a non-functioning "fun-switch" on their rifle unless it was to draw attention?
Sounds like it may have worked......."
Maybe because it was built from modified FA parts in accordance with the law? Silkscreening plastic is kind of expensive and often doesn't work well for builders, compared to leaving the authentic look alone

TCB

coloradokevin said:

ApacheCoTodd,

That's really strange. I never realized that anyone would think that having LC brass was illegal. Granted, you're talking about California, but still. LC brass is incredibly common, so the field interrogation because of your use of it seems entirely bizarre to me.

I'm in law enforcement, and I think I'd have been even less polite with some idiot accusing me of unlawful activity because of my use of that brass. You can buy ammo at Cabelas loaded in LC brass!

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To be completely fair and open it must be noted:


1. They had a couple of very high profile ammo theft incidents with the Navy down San Diego. One particular information pollution aspect was a theft of LC93 "Raufoss" got into the mix of LC93 .223 in particular and any LC in general. These were explained by the supervisors when they brought the "circulars" out to the respective ranges.

Some .223 was involved in thefts as well but a great deal from the same lots/headstamps had been disposed of legally too. Still, the southern California hassles remained in shooting and at shows.

2. They're hell on AP/Incendiary, etc... regarding wild fires.

3. Easy to "remember something about LC..." and apply it to any LC.

I got the general - if misguided - reaction of the officers just not the "half a terrorist/thief" tone of the interaction. Set me back on my heels a bit and I don't like being there... undeservedly.

Todd.

I was at a range in the Detroit area with my XDm 9mm at the time and had a guy look like he was about to lose it because I was loading a mag while he was downrange when I got the green light from the RO. You meet some pretty nutty people sometimes. The whole time after that he seriously looked like he was about to lose it and "snap" so I left the range and brushed it off with my life and no confrontation.

"Jeff White

You can't tell that military ammo is stolen by the head stamp on the brass. You need the Lot Number from the original packaging."


Right... that's my point.

Todd.