Striker Control Device For Glocks

Charley C · Jul 14, 2015

I'm really surprised that I haven't noticed anyone start a thread about the "gadget";

After running across it completely by accident, I spent some time reading about it; a fellow first designed this thing 3 or 4 years ago; the whole idea was to create a very simple mechanical device that could be easily "installed" on most models of Glocks in order to be able to prevent the possibility of having an accidental discharge while holstering the gun.

Once they had the prototype working "flawlessly", they made up a dozen or so and put them in the hands of a few police officers and others that use their Glocks on a daily basis; everyone who has had one on their Glock reports that the thing "just "works", with never a problem.

Now that they have had these trials, they are now in the midst of raising funds in order to get this thing into production.

From what I've seen and read, I don't think there's any question about the device "working" as advertised; I only wish I had as much confidence in the method they're using to "raise operating funds".

http://pistol-training.com/archives/9545

To describe this device in a nut-shell, you first need to remove the slide from the Glock, and then remove the rear-end cover plate from the slide, then the "gadget" fits in the end of the slide exactly the same way the cover plate does; once it's installed, it "does" absolutely nothing........(until, and unless you put thumb pressure on the end of the slide while you're re-holstering the pistol ).

As long as your thumb is held firmly on the end of the slide, the striker mechanism is completely "inoperative". To remove the device takes the same few minutes as installing did.

TwinReverb · Jul 14, 2015

It won't be needed if people pay attention to what they're doing.

malakili · Jul 14, 2015

If you have enough training/presence of mind to press your thumb on the back of the slide while holstering, why wouldn't you have enough to keep your finger or other objects out of the trigger guard while holstering?

I'll be leaving my Glocks alone, I don't need to add a failure point.

ritepath · Jul 14, 2015

It won't stop dumb non-gun folks from doing stupid crap inexperienced people do.

muzzleblast... · Jul 14, 2015

Personally, I think it is a great idea and one that should be licensed by Glock. One of the most basic safety precautions for holstering revolvers and hammer fired DA/SA/DAO semi-autos is to place one's thumb behind the hammer to provide tactile feedback and block rearward movement. The device enables a similar safe practice.

sigarms228 · Jul 14, 2015

Interesting! I am all for anything that has the potential to improve the safety of a firearm and meets the individual shooters needs and wants.

mgmorden · Jul 14, 2015

Glock already does exactly what I need it to: it goes bang when I pull the trigger and stays silent when I don't. No sense in playing around with that formula.

C0untZer0 · Jul 14, 2015

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

- Douglas Adams -

Malamute · Jul 14, 2015

If you have enough training/presence of mind to press your thumb on the back of the slide while holstering, why wouldn't you have enough to keep your finger or other objects out of the trigger guard while holstering?

I'll be leaving my Glocks alone, I don't need to add a failure point.

I'm glad to hear you watch your gun go in the holster every time you reholster so that nothing can possibly accidentally get in the trigger guard. Its a good example for the rest of us.

Its obvious you've studied the gadget thing and know its weakness. Tell us what the failure point is. I missed it.

Captains1911 · Jul 14, 2015

Malamute said:
I'm glad to hear you watch your gun go in the holster every time you reholster so that nothing can possibly accidentally get in the trigger guard. Its a good example for the rest of us.

Its obvious you've studied the gadget thing and know its weakness. Tell us what the failure point is. I missed it.

What he means is this device just adds one more part to the equation....one more part that can fail, and because it's a device specifically designed to render the gun inoperable, you can probably imagine how undesirable failure of such a part would be.

herrwalther · Jul 14, 2015

An invention in search of a problem.

Fremmer · Jul 14, 2015

I've never heard of someone using the thumb to press on a hammer to keep it from moving backwards because they are pulling a trigger when they shouldn't be pulling the trigger while unholstering or holstering a pistol.

I sure don't know everything, but the gadget sounds unnecessary. And a little strange.

Fishbed77 · Jul 14, 2015

Looks like good way to part a fool from his money. No thanks.

If you want a hammer-fired gun, why not just buy a hammer-fired gun rather than kludge a design that works well as-is?

Hangingrock · Jul 14, 2015

If you can't teach individuals the proper procedures to holster and keep their fingers free from the triggering mechanism then how are you going to teach them to use their thumb to press on the back of a slide to activate a safety devise?

TwinReverb · Jul 14, 2015

Hangingrock said:
If you can't teach individuals the proper procedures to holster and keep their fingers free from the triggering mechanism then how are you going to teach them to use their thumb to press on the back of a slide to activate a safety devise?

+1 This is a solution in search of a problem.

Malamute · Jul 14, 2015

What he means is this device just adds one more part to the equation....one more part that can fail, and because it's a device specifically designed to render the gun inoperable, you can probably imagine how undesirable failure of such a part would be.

My imagination is failing me. Explain how it can fail, or make the gun inoperable (which I believe was the implication of the comment). From what I can gather, if it fails in any way, it would be the only moving part, the hinge, and the back piece simply fall off the gun and not affect the function in any way.

I believe he also meant that he always watches the gun go in the holster, so theres no possible way, ever, of anything getting caught between the gun and holster or in the trigger guard while holstering. I'm impressed, I am not always able to do that.

I'm surprised at how many people are willing to condemn or express an opinion about something that they apparently dont understand how it functions or what its purpose is.

Fremmer · Jul 14, 2015

I didn't even see a picture or a specific description of how it mechanically works.

And how does losing a full grip on the pistol (because you have to move the strong-side thumb from around the grip to behind the pistol to press on a specific point) make it safer when drawing and/or holstering?

I don't get it. I wouldn't do that with a hammer-fired pistol. Or any pistol.

gazpacho · Jul 14, 2015

If a part can work, that same part can fail. The more parts a machine has, the more parts it has that can potentially fail. To make a machine more reliable, you design better parts, or design the machine with fewer parts.

This is really Murphy's Law in it's purest sense.

Miked7762 · Jul 14, 2015

Ugh, yet another 'crowdfunding' project. "Send us capital money so we can make a profit without investing our own funds. No, you won't ever receive a portion of those profits. But if you give us a large enough chunk of cash, you'll receive one of our gizmos for free! Possibly. If we end up actually making these. Maybe."

leadcounsel · Jul 14, 2015

Why not just buy a gun with an external safety, which is what this appears to do...? Aren't you defeating the entire point of not having a manual external safety by using this device?

This gadget is $55! Yikes. No thanks.

There's another gadget that is similarly "useful." It's a small physical block that is inserted behind the trigger, which the user pushes out when he draws his weapon. As for reholstering, dunno.

I'm in the crowd that you should learn proper muscle memory and pay attention to holstering, and this is a non-issue. I don't want added after-market safety features to my guns.

ku4hx · Jul 14, 2015

All these "gadget" things, as good intentioned as they may be, remind me of this.

Sol · Jul 14, 2015

Are there no pictures of said device on that website or is my phone stupid?

Malamute · Jul 14, 2015

Are there no pictures of said device on that website or is my phone stupid?

No, your phone isnt stupid, or maybe not.

I didnt look at the original link earlier, it doesnt have a picture. I saw it discussed elsewhere. This was one of the links in the other discussion that showed how it functions. The guy talks about appendix carry, but theres also been a number if ND injuries with IWB carry at the side, and OWB carry as well. Mainly attributable to unexpected objects getting into the trigge guard or holster when reholstering, so no, it isnt simply a training issue and keeping ones finger out of the trigger guard when reholstering.

https://www.facebook.com/ballisticradio/videos/vb.277229719074532/670466729750827/

I didn't even see a picture or a specific description of how it mechanically works.

And how does losing a full grip on the pistol (because you have to move the strong-side thumb from around the grip to behind the pistol to press on a specific point) make it safer when drawing and/or holstering?

I don't get it. I wouldn't do that with a hammer-fired pistol. Or any pistol.

Its safer to hold a hammer because if something gets in the trigger guard when reholstering, the hammer cant fall. Many people do it, believe it or not, and make decisions about which gun they prefer based on things like that. This thing gives the same opportunity to manually interupt the firing cycle in case of something accidently getting in the trigger guard or holster when reholsering (not when drawing). Thats all it does. Once holstered, it does nothing else, and doesnt interfere with the function of the gun in any way unless pressure is applied to the back of the slide.

Drawstring cordlocks on jackets seem to be a common object that can cause ND's when reholstering. Many people cut them off. Some dont realize it can be a problem. Its a known cause in several instances.

An interesting post in another thread,

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=9953276&postcount=28

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danez71 · Jul 14, 2015

Aren't you defeating the entire point of not having a manual external safety by using this device?

Nope.

This is only in the Safe position when you are actively pushing down on it and is immediately in the Fire position once you take your thumb off of it. You don't need to move it to the Fire position.

All of Glocks safeties are passive and this device keeps it that way.

And how does losing a full grip on the pistol (because you have to move the strong-side thumb from around the grip to behind the pistol to press on a specific point) make it safer when drawing and/or holstering?

Apparently you've never ridden a motorcycle (ATV/Quad) or watercraft that you use your thumb for the throttle. You never have a full grip.

Or any motorcycle that has a clutch... every time you change gears you don't have a full grip.

A lot of the replies here remind me of about 25 yrs ago.

I don't want ABS on my car because its another thing to go wrong and its going to get me killed.

Same with seat belts - they're going to fail when I drive my car off a pier into water and get me killed.

Its really not much different than the anti's saying "if you make constitutional carry legal, there will be blood running in the streets".

Fremmer · Jul 15, 2015

Nah, I'm used to keeping my finger off the trigger and paying attention when I holster the pistol.

But if having a button (or whatever it is) makes you feel safer, go for it. They make a nice heavy New York trigger for it that'll make it even safer for you. Between the special button and the heavy, almost useless trigger, you'll be....safe.

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