I'd prefer being able to mount a carry handle for that original FAL look. I think the DSA guns are too pricey, I'd love one of their "standard" rifles with 21" barrel, but they go for north of $1600 new IF you can even find them. A quick look on Gun Broker, Bud's Gun Shop, and other sites reveal very, very few DSA guns for sale that are NIB.
These are all reasons why I decided to go with an $800 PTR-91 rifle when I was looking for a .308 battle rifle. It's been a great gun, very much the equal of an FAL in terms of overall capability and several hundred dollars cheaper than this new cast Voyager FAL, which is unproven. I too, have been able to find almost no info about this rifle online.
If you are like me and want a .308 semi auto military style rifle, take a hard look at the PTR Industries guns before plunking down twice the money on a DSA FAL. Here is my PTR-91 modified into original H&K G3 format:
Dude, for real? In the previous thread I was willing to give you much more of a pass on your comments. This time you are clearly being deliberately obtuse and deceptive in your comments. Lets go through your points:
I think the DSA guns are too pricey
Interesting you think your heavily modified PTR that didn't work right without additional work was not too expensive at $1500 or so but a FAL of roughly the same or less price is? Please explain how that works. Also why are you even talking about the other models this thread is about the $1K voyager.
It's been a great gun, very much the equal of an FAL in terms of overall capability and several hundred dollars cheaper than this new cast Voyager FAL, which is unproven.
So a gun that didn't work right has been great? That is an interesting perspective. I'd be pissed if I have a $1500 that I had to fix to get to work right. Yours wasn't actually several hundred dollars cheaper was it? It was actually several hundred more and then didn't work. Even if you only paid $800 that is not several hundred less than a $1k gun its a couple hundred less. How do you know its been the equal of an FAL? Do you have one? Have you shot one? What exactly have you done to compare the two? Did you have an FAL that didn't work right that you also had to fix?
I think it is funny that you are criticizing the cast receiver since it is pretty obvious that you didn't even know about them as of the last thread you were spouting of about FALs in. Am I wrong? Why do we care about your opinion since it is admittedly based entirely on internet searches?
How long do you think DSA cast receivers have been around? How many cast DSA receivers do you figure are out there?
What do you think about the FN cast receivers?
Have you ever seen a cast FAL receiver fail? Have you ever heard of one
If you are like me and want a .308 semi auto military style rifle, take a hard look at the PTR Industries guns before plunking down twice the money on a DSA FAL.
Seriously why do you keep throwing out that figure? The $1k gun is not twice the cost of an $800 gun and your gun is not an $800 gun. If we are like you we will buy an $800 and then spend about $700 more trying to get it set up like it should be. Its like your doubling down on being deliberately disingenuous. What I cannot figure out it why?
We get it, you like your PTR, despite needing to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars to modify it and then then have it not even work and need to fix it. That said this thread isn't about the PTR.
You have no meaningful experience with any FAL let alone the voyager so why even post in this thread? Why act like you have a basis of knowledge to compare the PTR to any other semi 308? You have had a PTR for maybe a month and now you somehow know it is better than everything else and can also talk about 308 guns you don't even have meaningful experience with? Be real.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=9985942#post9985942
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=785922
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=785397
PTRs are solid guns. I own one. They have their strengths and weaknesses. However, blindly cheer leading for them and using misleading statements and talking about stuff you know nothing about is silly and its even more so when you do it in threads that having nothing to do with the PTR.
I promise I'm not trying to be a jerk but if you are going to spew misinformation, you are bound to get called on it.