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All I took from this is that a water jug =/= a human. And using out of date ammo just proves new ammo is better. BoT is about as scientific as judging a 2011 Corvette's performance based on how the shell of the same car would do with a VW Bug's engine...

The only reason I have commented on Glocks is because I owned one and shot it exclusively for almost a year. I have no idea what the hell I am talking about when it comes to any other platform.

Sig 229 Stoeger Cougar Compact XD 45c Ruger Lc9 Some form of Ak-47 (maybe Saiga mod) Mossberg 500 The list goes on and on...

The only reason I don't own one of the Cheap guns is because I can see nothing I would gain from having them... Other than another gun to eat up my ammo at the range

9mm is cheap(er) to shoot and will work just fine in a defensive situation. I would gamble that most CCW is done with a 9mm or .45, the .40 is just a great LE round, but I am not convinced of its place in the civilian market.

I would just pick up a police trade in glock and call it a day.

I usually just look at how much the velocity increases to justify whether or not to get +p, I carry 147 grain HST, and last I looked the 147+p HST on has a very marginal increase in velocity, which in my mind wouldn't really do that much for expansion or penetration. Of course I have been wrong...

I had Glock 19, traded for XDm Compact 9mm (so the exact same guns you are asking about in a smaller caliber). Try shooting them both, but I am in love with the ergonomics of the XD pistols. Traded my Glock away and haven't looked back (yet anyways). I have shot around 600-700 through my XDm and...

Have you given the XD line a shot?

+1 on the new XDmC, I have it in the 9mm. If the .40 is anything like it (which it is because they are the exact same gun), I would not hesitate to buy it in an instant.

I carry 147 grain HST everyday, I think it is a great round and the stats I have seen make me very happy with that load.

I had a Glock 19 as my first CCW handgun, just a little bit too large for year round carry and the grip was not ideal for me. I looked at M&P and XD and was underwhelmed by both. But I saw the new XDm Compact in my gun store a few months ago and after picking it up I had to have it. Traded the...