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I've read about Brian's situation in Reason, and I will write Guv. I've alerted gun-owning and like-minded friends. I hope the event goes well (I'm in NC). I hope he gets loose from this. I generally think Christie is a good man - he's delightful to listen to - he really should get behind this...

you won, fgr39...

Sounds like the 30-06 will do. As others point out - about as flat as the 'faster' cartridges, and it'll do a whole lot more damage when it gets there.

since 'demonseed' - ??? - asks, I'm presuming he's a new shooter. If that is the case... a 300 WinMag would be a very bad choice. Expensive to shoot, hurts to shoot, very loud - the last two will impede you developing good shooting habit. Heck, all three would be discouraging. And you will...

IMHO... a Savage 110 (more likely 111 synthetic) in30-06 needs to be under 300$ to justify used purchase.

check on it again in a week or two... they may change their mind. Offer a little less. A 336 of any flavor is a good thing.

The safety works, you just have to use correct technique. If you're right-handed, here's how: hold rifle at port arms - put butt of rifle inside right elbow, against bicep, with right forearm across top of stock - grasp safety w/fingers of right hand - rifle is braced w/butt against your right...

for 30-30, I believe they've changed the box color, nothing else

Not a big step... more like, somewhat bigger, roughly equivalent. 444 or 450 or 45/70... those are BIG STEP from the 30-30; .35 Rem is just comparable

pretty much. I've not yet tried the pointy Hornady bullets yet; FN 150s are my 99% solution, so far :)

I'm a hunter, and I'm all about function, so here's my list: 1. .22 for plinking, squirrels, plinking, teaching daughters, starting new shooters 2. 30-30 for deer. It is a 99% solution; most of the time a 100% solution 3. .270 for those late season hunts when I can see a lot further (though...

.223 is plenty for fawns - I'm willing to go along with that. And fawns taste good, too... .

I've taken a shot at a 'running deer' - well, more of a canter - one time. Deer snuck up behind stand, and wouldn't walk past. I spent a several minutes waiting; when I finally turned my head, he exploded out of there (I think he was watching me). I upped my rifle (scoped 336) and grunted but he...

go with the 30-30 - plenty of gun, classy, and deer just taste better when shot by a 30-30 lever... .

I've hunting quite a bit, as I've got some time on my hands - if you're going to be unemployed, now is the time! I'd rather have the work, though. Anyhow - shot a does two weeks back w/muzzleloader, and a spike this morning, taken with Marlin 30-30. About 25-30 yards from the tree, a lovely...

semper fidelis - a cheap CVA will do. I bought a Buckhorn .50 for 80 bucks a few years ago post-season sale; they're around a hundred or a little more now. Deadly on deer.

Congrats. Isn't a 336 pretty?

I like this thread - my girls are 5 and 9, and both want to go with me. Soon.

I think I'd like to shoot a Very Big Bear with my 30-30.

Thread Drift. Kind of like wind drift - gets you off-target. i'm off in pursuit of the wily whitetail (with a 30-30)