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Thanks rangerruck. Im having a hard time justifying spending more money on something that I wont be shooting long distances or competition with but rather just a hunting rifle. Sounds like the cheaper rifle will more than likely serve me just fine.

I know I want a 223. My choice is between a Tikka(1 in 8 twist) and Savage(1 in 9 twist). I know both rifles are capable of very tight groups with match grade ammo or hand loads. I probably wont get an answer Im looking for because I would simply need to buy the rifle and try the factory hunting...

Thanks for the help Art Eatman. I too through the years have never had any trouble from any scopes Ive owned. This rifle will be for mostly short ranges in combination with some thick cover hunting. Can you tell me the name of the blunt-nosed 70-grain bullets you use ?

Im going to buy a 223 for my two sons to grow up with shooting deer. I know its not a big caliber but will work just fine since I will be with them to limit the angle of the deer before shooting as well as the distance. Anyway I cant decide between some rifles which are Savage, CZ, and Tikka...

More great information. Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the help. I think you are right about me contacting the seller first. I have sent them a message but I hope to talk to them Monday about this particular subject on the phone. From what Ive read on theyre advertisement its seems that all sales are final. The sellers name is "Tin Star...

If I buy a rifle on line like GunBroker or GunsAmerica then my question is that when it arrives to my local sporting good store and after looking it over real good then do I have the option to refuse the rifle if something is wrong with it ? Do I have to pay for return ?

I cant tell you which is the best deer round from your gun or mine. There are three popular loads I can tell you about. I personally have some Federal 60 gn Vital Shock NP on order. Some other rounds to consider is... Federal Power Shock Jacketed soft point 64 gn Winchester Super X Power Point...

Thanks nicholst55. I thought I remember reading somewhere that it is important to either push or pull the brush starting from the action toward the muzzle end only and not to push/pull brush starting from muzzle end toward action.

I have cleaned new rifles close to this manner but not exactly. Anyway here is a link to the Savage breaking in procedure that Im thinking about following on my next rifle... http://www.savagearms.com/cs_barrel.htm I have a combination cleaner in a single bottle for both powder and copper...

Thank Oldcoyote I put that in my favorites. I believe Im going to try the factory ammunition first before I commit myself to other options. But it depends on the quantity and price. I will wait to hear from some other sources but right now all arrows are pointing toward factory loads for my...

Thanks rcmodel. I have two boxes of the Federal 60 grain on its way so I have not given them a fair chance for accuracy. Besides those loads you mentioned Ive heard of some heavier Barnes bullets that I thought I might like to try but would require someone else loading them for me. Also thanks...

I have contacted a couple of different people via email to find out about some custom ammo. Im wanting a heavy bullet in the 223 for deer. If you know of any good businesses I can check out then please let me know. Also let me know if there is anything I need to watch out for with these types of...

At this stage of the game in my life I have decided not to pursue the reloading for now. I might when my kids are grown and left the nest. Thanks again.

Well I know that my Savage 223 really likes the heavier bullets like the Hornady 75 grain. It sounds like it might be something I need to stay away from. Is there people I can pay to make the heavier hunting loads ?

Thanks for all the help. Im not sure if this is something I really want to try or not. I want some heavy (70+grain) bullets to shoot from a 223 1-9 twist. I want a heavy core bond or nosler partition type that wont separate. Is re-loading "dummy proof" for beginners and can it be consistent ...

What can I look to spend bare minimum to get started reloading 223 ammo ? Let say for example to load around 500 to 1000 rounds. Im sure there are several options to determine the cost. My main goal is to be able to use heavy bullets and get better accuracy. Im not looking to make high volume.

Thats great. You answered all my questions. Thanks for the help.

Hunting with a FMJ is illegal in our state. So a few questions... Is a Jacketed Hollow Point considered to be the same thing ? And secondly why is FMJ illegal for hunting ? Is it because it doesnt expand enough ?

The first one Im going to try is: Federal Premium 223 Remington 60gr Nosler Partition Im looking for the heaviest bullet I can find at a fair price.