1 reason NOT to buy taurus

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I have never had an issue with any of my Taurii either. 617 .357 snubnose, PT92 9mm, Mod 85 .38.

That being said, I have shot box-stock Kimbers that don't shoot close to point of aim. As far as the PT1911 having odd-sized rear sight dovetails, I agree, that is moronic. A wise man once told me, "if you're buying a 1911, get a beavertail, get adjustable sights".
 
People are so quick to blame guns for inaccuracy:rolleyes:

It may be that the gun in question and you are just not meant to be. The problem is that when you walk into a store to buy a gun you don't often get to try out the gun first to see if it fits you. Unlike buying a new pair of shoes you can't try it out for size first and know that you walk out with a perfect fit. I've owned many guns that were inaccurate in my hands and perfectly accurate for someone else and vice versa.

Not saying that you are a bad shot mind you, I'm simply putting out the hypothesis that perhaps the gun and you are not a perfect match. Remember there are plenty of perfectly happy Taurus owners out there and that every company puts out a rotten egg once in a while.
 
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huh.....


that's odd, one of my favorite features of my Taurus, and the biggest reason i want more... is the straight 8 heine sights.

But, if you're really dis-satisfied with your PT 1911, i'll trade you some adjustable rear sights for the gun... That way whatever gun you have next you can put adjustable sights on, and i'll have a 1911!!
 
Add me to the list

I'm satisfied with both my Taurus PT145 and the 1911. Worked some on the 1911, cause I can, and it's my IDPA gun, over the pure Colt and the built by me Colt/Essex.
 
that's odd, one of my favorite features of my Taurus, and the biggest reason i want more... is the straight 8 heine sights.

Not odd to me. Those "straight eight" sights would be one of the least liked feature on any pistol I might be considering to buy. I guess it comes down to what a person is used to.
 
in your post you quoted

"as for the gun shooting low, yep, even off a rest. i have just compensated by aliening the bottom of the front sight dot to the top of the rear sight."

that is not compinsating that is the correct way to shoot a heinie sight. you put the front dot on top of the rear sight.


steve
 
I've had my PT1911 and love it! BUT when asked by other shooters what I think of my PT1911 I tell them I'd probably buy an STI or something else.

Then I explain that their sight cuts are not standard and I had to have a smith machine the rear dove tail it fit an adjustable sight and XS sights "fitted" one of their Big Dots into my front dove tail. There are other issues I have had with the gun but I've worked them out as well. I carry it often and shoot IDPA and USPSA with it monthly.
 
Non standard size dove tails is very common in non US made guns. what is standard for us may not be standard for the rest of the world. As for Brazil quality the swiss amry uses a made in brazil feild gun as their main big boomer. But thats Imbel and not Taurus though.
 
PT Millenium Pro 745
PT Millenium Pro 140

These are my carry guns. They work great. They feel great. They carry great.

bensdad, what kind of holster do you use? I've been having some trouble finding holsters, and would like to have a nice IWB rig.
 
Ok, Taurus wont cut it for you... Ill send you my address and you can ship me the pistol overnight... I will put in the cabnet next to my PT1911 that everybody hates because I shoot inside everybody elses spread.
 
My first pistol ever was a Taurus PT92 I bought back in the early 80s. I probably have well over 15,000 rounds through that thing and it has run flawlessly. Perfect. Action feels like there are ball bearings in there.

Had a Taurus Model 85 snubbie that also shot without err. Personally, I couldn't shoot that particular gun well, so it got traded, but that was my fault, not the gun's.

As for their 1911, I've never had an occasion to shoot or even handle one, but it sure looks like you get a good value for your money.

My old Springfield Armory 1911 Loaded had all kinds of Brazilian made parts and that gun ran all day with no problems. Not everyone can afford Wilson, Baer, Nighthawk, Ed Brown, etc. For the ordinary Joe, I think the Taurus looks like a smart purchase, especially if it's your first.
 
Old December 2nd, 2008, 06:02 PM #5
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i dont think they should even put sights on them. just be the bullet and hit what your pointing at
 
Problems with Taurus

Hey folks, take a look at the following thread: What is the most unreliable semi auto you have shot ?

Sort through the posts on this thread and aside from the obvious junk like Jennings and Lorcin, the list of gripes reads like a "who's who" in the world of firearms manufacturing. The bottom line, for me anyway, is that almost anyone can build a lemon. It would seem to be a matter of percentages. If you've got a good responsible manufacturer that is willing to make things right we all come out on the winning side as far as I'm concerned.

I know what you mean about poor customer service. It makes me mad as hell. Probably the worst experience I've ever had was US Repeating Arms with a new in the box model 70 in .223. They apparently forgot to finish reaming the chamber. The throat was so short it literally crimped the brass into the bullet when I closed the bolt. I called Winchester...they promptly told me I was stupid. I took the rifle to a custom rifle smith whom proceeded to take another .130" off the front of the chamber! Good thing I didn't try to fire that rifle out of the box! The problem with USRA that that nobody gave a damn. Guess what? They went belly up! Our security regarding problems like this is on forums like this one. Collectively we can put enough pressure on the bad performers to be accountable. Absent this, we have the power to put them out of business!
 
I don't recall anybody saying this yet, but maybe somebody did. Did the OP try it with different ammo? I know on many of my larger caliber guns, different ammo will shoot as much as 8" above/below POA depending on the bullet/load (the high end of that spectrum is mostly with big bore revolvers, but holds true to a lesser extent on 1911's). If they are zero'd with a hot +P 230gr, it's gonna shoot higher than say, a snail's pace 230gr. That's from a rest, BTW.

It seems like a no-brainer, but I just thought I'd throw it out there.
 
So you are an ex comp. shooter and want a 1911 that has competition like accuracy and you buy a Taurus? Im not knocking the Taurus by any means, but i wouldnt go as far to say its on the same level as a competition pistol. Maybe a Wilson Combat would suite your needs better. The PT1911 is a good pistol. It was built so that people with limited budgets could afford to have a quality 1911. Doesnt mean that every shooter should automatically shoot 1" groups at 25yds with this pistol.

I own 5 pistols. 3 of which have fixed sights: My Kahr CW9, my Beretta 92F and Taurus 357. They all shoot differently and I adapt to the way i shoot them and the way the guns shoot. my 92F for example, i hold the dot on the front sight, center and on top of the 2 dots on the rear sight and it hits point of aim at 10 yds, off hand. If i want to go further down range, i raise the front site. Its as simple as that. My S&W 1006 and EAA Witness Elite have adjustable rear sights and guess what? I adjust those to the way i shoot them.
 
Just to set some posters straight-Yes I've tried different loads/bullet weights/velocities. I FINALLY got it shooting where I wanted. The 2 main reasons I originally got it was: #1-as basis to build from (lots of part styles I like on a pistol that is as cheap as building from bare frame,#2-so that if customers happened to ask me about them, I would know what I was talking about-with at least 1 sample. It has been unfailingly reliable with 3K through it with all kinds of loads. For someone who wants a reliable 1911 "loaded" for that price to simply take out of box and shoot, it's an excellent pistol. For someone hoping to shortcut instead of building from bare frame-forget it.

Also having oddball size dovetail cut just don't hold water in an pistol designed expressly to be sold in the USA.
 
Hmmmmmm......

I visited my local General Motors dealership today........attempted to buy a brand new in the box Cadillac for the same price that I could buy a new Chevy. Chevy has some mighty high powered advertising so my reasoning?? Both cars have a front seat and steerig wheel, ac, power steering, electric windows, four wheels, very comfortable, lots of built in safety features, therefore the two should be about equal. Salesman just laughed at me. Made me very angry. :fire: I'm boycotting all Cadillac products for the rest of my life. That'll show them. :evil:

Love my PT1911SS. I'm just proud that everyone deosn't share the same feeling or there would be a severe shortage and they would no longer be a bargain priced gun (Law of supply and demand). Doesn't bother me at all if it shoots 2" low, high, right or left at 15 yards. Just wish that I was also an accurate competitive shooter but I'm not. If I have my math right, 15 yards equals 45 feet. If I'm that far away from the thug, I'll probably just see how fast I can run whether I'm toting a Taurus, Kimber or a Colt!!. :D Afterall, that super duper, shiny, double powdered lead pushing round of ammo in the chamber just might might be a dud...........:banghead:
 
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This is a thinly disguised "hate-thread". It reminds me of a thread I posted about Kahr that was removed with a censure because I made similar assertions that the OP made; but made the mistake of using the word "Hate" in the title. It shouldn't go any further, IMHO....
 
Back in August I was in the market for my first new gun in 30 years and first semi auto. On the Taurus forum were horror stories about quality control and service and for that reason I got a S&W. The Taurus complaints have gotton noticeably less and service much quicker. They seem to make an exelent gun for a bargain price. I would some day consider buying one. The PT 145 is an attractive option.
 
Hey 1362!!!!

Now that's pretty durned complicated........... Put top dot over bottom dot......by jove, come to think of it, that's what I've been doing!!!! And it pretty well works for me............... You just got carried away in your study guide.......
 
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