How are the new 10/22's as far as quality? Over time, some things seem to go up or down. I have an older(20 years) 10/22 that runs like a sewing machine and is solid as a rock. Could I expect this out of the current production 10/22's? Has that idea improved over the last 20 years or has quality headed down the hill?
10/22 Quality
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JR47
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We bought our daughter a stainless, with pink laminated stock, 10/22 two years ago. It shoots anything that she feeds it, and is quite accurate in her hands. No problems whatsoever.
Corporal K
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About 15 years ago I had one that ran like a champ. I bought a new one about 2 years ago and I haven't been all the impressed.
Shadow 7D
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what ever happened to the stainless steel receivers that they were making for the .22 mag version?
highorder
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Did Ruger ever offer the 10/22 mag in stainless? I don't think I ever saw one.
chicharrones
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I've had my hands on a 2009 issue plain jane model 10/22. It seems just as well made as my early '90s plain jane 10/22. The trigger pull is heavier on the 2009 model, but it shoots very well anyway.
henschman
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They recently started putting a plastic trigger group in them. They also have a different finish on the receiver that is kind of a sandy/crinkle finish. The triggers are awful, but they were on the more recent metal trigger models, too. I put a volquartsen target hammer in my plastic trigger one, and it made the trigger pull just as good as my older metal trigger model with the same hammer.
As far as reliability goes on the newer ones, the ones I've seen in action have not been noticeably worse.
As far as reliability goes on the newer ones, the ones I've seen in action have not been noticeably worse.
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CraigC
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Very little has changed. They are still good guns and still a great value. The 10/22 has increased in price at a rate around half that of their other guns. Not even keeping up with inflation. There has been much grumbling about the recent changes to a polymer trigger housing, matte finished barrels and wrinkle finished receivers but IMHO, it's just a bunch of unsubstantiated belly-aching.
The 10/22Mag was never made in stainless.
The 10/22Mag was never made in stainless.
Shadow 7D
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I thought it was, or is that the voristien(sp) after market reciever
Red Cent
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"........unsubstantiated belly-aching."
Hey, us "mature" guys have the right.
The trigger group housing is probaably stronger than the aluminum one. However, tuning and improved mods are difficult with polymer.
Hey, us "mature" guys have the right.
The trigger group housing is probaably stronger than the aluminum one. However, tuning and improved mods are difficult with polymer.
bigfatdave
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Some things have improved, the first to come to mind is that Ruger finally realized that most 10/22 buyers were scrapping the mag release for a better one, so Ruger put on a better one as standard equipment.
Some things have gotten worse, trigger pull is lawyered a bit heavier, some dislike the new finish options.
Some things are just a bit different, plastic trigger group is a good example ... not better or worse, just a change.
Some things are the same, the iron sights on a basic 10/22 are pretty lousy, but there's a rail and you can mount Tech-Sites** or most rimfire optical devices.
They remain modular and amazingly supported by aftermarket parts, if there's something you don't like on a new model, Volquartsen* or another source can fix you up, I think the 10/22 and Marlin model 60 (including variants of both) are tied for most common rifle in America, so there's tons of stuff to bolt on to them.
I just got my third in the cabinet, there's the one I mocked up to be a M1 Carbine trainer, a plain-jane model MrsBFD likes to run with an optic, and I just got one of the new production Mannlicher stock models, I'll be dropping in some VQ parts and adding tech-sights eventually, I suppose.
* (https://www.volquartsen.com ... GREAT stuff and good service, sometimes you can find their hardware cheaper on Midway or others, shop around)
** (http://tech-sights.com/ ... great addition if you want to make your 10/22 a Liberty Training Rifle)[/SIZE]
Some things have gotten worse, trigger pull is lawyered a bit heavier, some dislike the new finish options.
Some things are just a bit different, plastic trigger group is a good example ... not better or worse, just a change.
Some things are the same, the iron sights on a basic 10/22 are pretty lousy, but there's a rail and you can mount Tech-Sites** or most rimfire optical devices.
They remain modular and amazingly supported by aftermarket parts, if there's something you don't like on a new model, Volquartsen* or another source can fix you up, I think the 10/22 and Marlin model 60 (including variants of both) are tied for most common rifle in America, so there's tons of stuff to bolt on to them.
I just got my third in the cabinet, there's the one I mocked up to be a M1 Carbine trainer, a plain-jane model MrsBFD likes to run with an optic, and I just got one of the new production Mannlicher stock models, I'll be dropping in some VQ parts and adding tech-sights eventually, I suppose.
* (https://www.volquartsen.com ... GREAT stuff and good service, sometimes you can find their hardware cheaper on Midway or others, shop around)
** (http://tech-sights.com/ ... great addition if you want to make your 10/22 a Liberty Training Rifle)[/SIZE]
Pigspitter
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I picked up one about 3 years ago and replaced the trigger. It shoots beautifully with only a few brands of ammo that it doesn't like.
Whatever you do, don't buy a deluxe
I had one ordered for me. The Crinkle coated receiver, matte, rough barrel, and plastic trigger group did not scream "Deluxe" to me.
To make matters worse, my gunshop stripped to threads while mounting a scope for me. After a couple of hours of tapping I was not particularly thrilled. I was told "they don't make them like they used to"
Next time I'm buying a bare receiver and rolling my own.
If I want a plinker I'm buying an old one.
I had one ordered for me. The Crinkle coated receiver, matte, rough barrel, and plastic trigger group did not scream "Deluxe" to me.
To make matters worse, my gunshop stripped to threads while mounting a scope for me. After a couple of hours of tapping I was not particularly thrilled. I was told "they don't make them like they used to"
Next time I'm buying a bare receiver and rolling my own.
If I want a plinker I'm buying an old one.
Bought a new Sporter a few months ago. Finish isn't as good as it once was, but it doesn't bother me. Sights have always sucked, but a set of Tech Sights took care of the problem. Trigger wasn't to my liking, but it was shoot-able. Installed a Volquartsen hammer, and shot like a dream. Overall, quality is good.
CraigC
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It's compatible with all the same internal parts as the old housing. I've got one of mine stuffed with PC goodies and there is no difference.
IMHO, there is blued or color case hardened steel and then there is everything else. Anodized or coated aluminum is not blued steel so I really don't see the switch to polymer as a downgrade. If anything, it is better because the molded polymer will not show chips and scratches and look like garbage after a few years like the aluminum housing always did. The 10/22 is still a relatively inexpensive plinker and for those to whom it is important, there is no shortage of CNC machined aluminum replacement housings that are better than the old Ruger castings anyway. I believe Tactical Innovations has them for fifty bucks.
I bought mine a year ago. The fit with the factory stock was not great -- the pins that held in the trigger housing slipped loose and the trigger started failing to reset. At first I taped the pins in place, then after a swap to a Hogue stock I didn't have any issues.
I also had some trouble with extraction after a couple hundred rounds. Never really worked around that one, as I had a yen to make my 10/22 as light and handy as possible. After I swapped to a carbon fiber Butler Creek barrel, no more issues.
I also replaced the sear and hammer with Volquartzen stuff.
So, am I pleased with the fit and finish of the 10/22? I couldn't say. I never really gave it a chance to break in properly.
I also had some trouble with extraction after a couple hundred rounds. Never really worked around that one, as I had a yen to make my 10/22 as light and handy as possible. After I swapped to a carbon fiber Butler Creek barrel, no more issues.
I also replaced the sear and hammer with Volquartzen stuff.
So, am I pleased with the fit and finish of the 10/22? I couldn't say. I never really gave it a chance to break in properly.
WTBguns10kOK
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Sold my 10/22 that was new a couple years ago. It didn't eat ammo...it's like it wanted to be anorexic or something. So, bought a Marlin 60 and problem solved.
bigfatdave
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Volquartsen Exact Edge Extractor
Cheap and easy to install, I've just made it policy to put them in 10/22 and mkIII guns, I have one for my Walther P22 as well, it fixed pretty much all ejection annoyances.
Sorry you got a lemon, what was actually wrong, or did you dump it on a sucker with no troubleshooting?
WTBguns10kOK
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Dunno, don't care. When a Model 60 works all ammo right out of the box and a 10/22 doesn't, it makes the choice easy. Don't really buy guns to need to fix them. And I don't think it was necessarily a lemon.
Blue Brick
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Have you looked at the Savage 64, it's gona be my next gun.
CraigC
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They've been producing countless variants of the 10/22 for 46yrs. It's one of the most successful firearms designs ever and enjoys the largest aftermarket support of any rifle. If yours didn't work, it was not typical of the model.
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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Just bought one of the 2-toned(shiney stainless barrel/crinkle rec) ones about a month ago----VQ hammer got the trigger down to 3lbs--which is less than my older aluminium one with the same mod.
Don't care for the extented mag release--so that was replaced with an old style factory "button" release---which is silver, so added to the 2-tone motif.
Added a red dot sight and has a couple 100 rounds through it now---nothing but perfect.
It can be argued that the plastic trigger housing is actually an improvement--being much more resistant to abuse than the older ones---I have no problem with it.
Was in Wally world the other day--looking over the guns--they had a blued/wood std model in there---the barrel was blued and not matte finished and the rec was the old style black paint and no crinkle finish. Went there yesterday and it was already gone--both the display thingy's were only half full--I think there's going to be a few happy new gun owners come Christmas morning.
I think Ruger is finally responding to all the complaining to the changes made a couple years ago---I think the plastic trigger guard is here to stay though. People are already paying $50 more for a new Ruger 10/22 over a new Marlin 60--charging a another $5-$10 for them to be made the old way I don't think most people would have a problem with that.
When I bought the new 10/22 a month ago--I looked at Mdl 60's REAL hard--hey its $50 bucks cheaper(wood/blued vs wood/blued)---the build quality is nowhere near the Ruger--disposable comes to mind---the Ruger is definitely worth the extra $50. Actually my Ruger was $87 more than the plain Mdl 60 due to the stainless barrel.
Don't care for the extented mag release--so that was replaced with an old style factory "button" release---which is silver, so added to the 2-tone motif.
Added a red dot sight and has a couple 100 rounds through it now---nothing but perfect.
It can be argued that the plastic trigger housing is actually an improvement--being much more resistant to abuse than the older ones---I have no problem with it.
Was in Wally world the other day--looking over the guns--they had a blued/wood std model in there---the barrel was blued and not matte finished and the rec was the old style black paint and no crinkle finish. Went there yesterday and it was already gone--both the display thingy's were only half full--I think there's going to be a few happy new gun owners come Christmas morning.
I think Ruger is finally responding to all the complaining to the changes made a couple years ago---I think the plastic trigger guard is here to stay though. People are already paying $50 more for a new Ruger 10/22 over a new Marlin 60--charging a another $5-$10 for them to be made the old way I don't think most people would have a problem with that.
When I bought the new 10/22 a month ago--I looked at Mdl 60's REAL hard--hey its $50 bucks cheaper(wood/blued vs wood/blued)---the build quality is nowhere near the Ruger--disposable comes to mind---the Ruger is definitely worth the extra $50. Actually my Ruger was $87 more than the plain Mdl 60 due to the stainless barrel.
WTBguns10kOK
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I don't think I'm the only one who had problems with multiple brands of ammo not feeding. And yes, if I wanted a custom gun, I'd consider a 10/22, because then you can get all the nice parts to make it work perfectly.
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