Why is the 10/22 so popular?

[USAF-ORF]

I bought a SS w Laminated stock about 18 yrs ago. It is was and still is very acurate out of the box. I have considered mounting a scope on it but heck it shoots great with the iron sights it came with. I would recommend a stainless. Cleanes up real good. plus a 50 rnd magazine is fun when needing stress relief.

 

[BoilerUP]

We should but there is never a shortage of boasts from Marlin true-believers that Rugers "need" a match barrel and $300 trigger to shoot as good as a stock Marlin.

Well there aren't any "numbers" to support it, but when so many people who own/owned both types say almost to a man that their stock Marlin 60 outshoots their stock 10/22, isn't too far off of a modified 10/22, wouldn't that body of anecdotal evidence be worth something?

We can't ALL be "fanboys", ya know...

 

[JTW Jr.]

A properly built 10/22 with a good barrel will shoot with any good boltgun that is not an Anschutz or Cooper.

I have a couple 10-22's , neither will out shoot my stock Savage MKII. I have a few friends who have built up 10-22's that are pretty accurate , but I paid under $250 for my base rifle , they have close to $550 in their 10-22's. For that price increase they should have an edge on me , but in reality they don't.

What it comes down to is , the 10-22 is a good rifle , I wouldn't call it a great rifle , but it is a good deal for the price. I like my old Marlin 700 , got it from Big 5 over 20+ years ago , trigger still sucks but I think I paid $100 for it back then , still a good shooter that can hang with a stock 10-22.

At the end of the day , buy what you want.

If you plan to personalize it , 10-22 is the way to go.

You can keep throwing $20 bills at it till they don't stick anymore , just don't plan to re-coup it all when you sell it

 

[Kayser Sose]

Geez, I hope the OP has gone and bought his rifle; this thread is done, stick a fork in it.

 

[Fastcast]

Marlin 60s are made to shoot
Ruger 10/22s are made to rebuild and/or "mall ninja dress up"

HUh, I must not have got the memo, that 10/22s need rebuilt to shoot...A many of small varmint have been eradicated by my non-shooter 10/22. I guess they didn't get the memo either.

The 10/22 does just fine stock, for what I expect of .22 and I have the option to built it anyway I want if I so desire. Not so with the Marlin.

Again, M60's only sell more because they're cheaper.....Simple economics gentlemen.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

Again, M60's only sell more because they're cheaper.....Simple economics gentlemen

Incorrect, they sell because they offer different features, and economics is never simple.

 

[CraigC]

Appears to be a lot of misconceptions about "rebuilding" a 10/22 and that reeks more of armchair speculation than actual experience on the subject.

10/22's get new barrels to shoot more accurately.

Headspace is adjusted for accuracy.

They get new triggers or trigger parts to be shot more accurately.

They get new stocks for aesthetic appeal or to be more comfortable to shoot.....or both.

The only reliability part is the extractor and that is usually installed to extract unfired rounds from the tighter Bentz match chamber present in most aftermarket barrels. This is not always necessary.

Incorrect, they sell because they offer different features, and economics is never simple.

No doubt a lot of those sales are due strictly to price. All you have to do is open your eyes on any shooting forum and you'll see how many people let their pocketbook decide. Everybody's looking for the best deal, the cheapest scope and the cheapest ammo. Buying everything they can from Walmart.

 

[Fastcast]

Incorrect, they sell because they offer different features, and economics is never simple.

No, they sell more because more people can afford them and they're an accurate, reliable rifle so why not. They don't sell more because they're somehow a match grade rifles with a cheap as you can get budget price, like some here suggest.

When on a budget people buy what they can afford.....It's as simple as that.

 

[JR47]

It would appear that any thread here, that seems to be garnering a good opinion of a gun, will be beset by those who wish to proclaim their own personal opinion about why it "isn't true"

That is, in part, the point of a discussion board

Really? Here and I thought it was to discuss what the OP asked about. Silly me. After all, he wanted to know why the 10/22 was so popular. He never uttered a word about Savage, Anschutz, CZ, Marlin, or Browning. So, what, exactly, is the purpose of grinding on about them?

FYI, I own several 10/22 rifles, a Marlin Model 60, a Savage/Stevens Model 987, a Savage Model 6, Remingtons 552 and 572, and a 597. I also have Marlin 99M1, several Marlin 75s, a Marlin 795, and some Glenfield/Marlins. There a CZ 452 here, as well.

However, when it comes time to shoot, or teach a new shooter, a 10/22 comes out. Spare mags make it nice to teach with, as the gun stays in action longer than a tube-feed. The most out-of-the-box accurate? A Remington Nylon 66.

The 10/22 needs no modifications for the average hunter/plinker/shooter. It works just fine as is. In fact, I would venture to say that it's more inherently accurate than 95% of the people shooting them.

 

[Caliper_Mi]

Lots of mag myths here...

Faster to reload a 10/22? Only if you have a stack of mags handy ($$$) Actually reloading the mag itself goes far faster on a tube than a box. I just pinch 3-4 rounds between my thumb and forefinger and push them through the port one at a time. Faster to load 18 into my M60 than 10 into any box I have used (including the 10/22).

I will concede that at a shooting bench, a box mag is more convenient. If that is your purpose, a Marlin 795 may be better than a 60.

Can't replace the mag on a M60? Midway has the magazine tubes - inside tube with follower for $25 and outside for $20. Both available in either long or short if you have an early (18 round) or later (14 round) model.

How do you damage the mag anyways?

Out of the box, the Ruger has a darn poor trigger and sights. Marlin factory sights aren't any better although they are easily adjustable for elevation but have a better trigger. The Marlin trigger (both 60 and 795 have the same trigger system) is also easily improved.

If you really want to swap parts everywhere or put on a match bull barrel, the 10/22 is the best buy. Otherwise, my pick is the Marlin. Better price, I like the feel of the rifle better, and the mods I like are available for both (peep sights, scopes, etc).

I think the impression is that the 10/22 is more popular because so many people mod it. That means more 10/22 threads, giving the impression of popularity. Meanwhile, Marlin owners are out shooting. Just the initial price difference alone buys several bricks of ammo, or a pretty good scope. (My 795 is $105 after Dunhams discount and Marlins $25 rebate)

 

[Maverick223]

I have to agree that the new 10/22 (with all the plastic bits) isn't the best rifle for the money. Granted the Marlin M-60 has plenty of plastic, but it isn't at the same price point either. Additionally it affords a bit better out-of-box accuracy on average (though the 10/22 is more than adequate for most sporting and plinking needs). I like my 10/22, and it has been very reliable over many years and tens of thousands of rounds, but I would recommend purchasing one of the older ones to anyone dead set on the platform.

 

[Semyon Vasilii]

i chose the 10/22 simply because i wanted a magazine fed .22 that didnt have a protruding magazine in front of the trigger guard. i like to rest my rifle on things. and although i had heard on the internet that the marlin was more accurate and thus worth it to load that annoying tube mag, i never noticed any difference in MY groups when shooting both rifles in the same half hour one day. so i went with the ruger.

and ive never looked back. sure some friends talk garbage about how their marlin can outshoot my ruger (my ruger is still stock), but this is settled simply by marching 75 yds away from our targets, turning, and shooting.

or maybe im just a MUCH better shot than ALL of my friends. so much so that i can use my far inferior equipment to achieve better groups than their one hole at 200 yds tack driving super marlins

 

[CraigC]

I really think the grumbling about the switch to polymer trigger housings and parts is much ado about nothing. The housing is molded with great precision than the previous cast aluminum version. To boot, the polymer housings won't get all dinged, scratched and chipped like the coated aluminum housings, which look like crap fast with serious use. IMHO, there is blued steel and then there is everything else. So I really don't see a switch to polymer from coated aluminum as a downgrade, rather an improvement. All the same aftermarket innard work in the polymer housings and there are CNC machined housings available for those who want more. Nobody complains much about the polymer receiver and trigger on a Glock. The Ruger parts are high strength polymer, while the Marlin's triggerguard is cheap plastic.

 

[HGUNHNTR]

Everybody's looking for the best deal, the cheapest scope and the cheapest ammo. Buying everything they can from Walmart.

It really isn't that black and white. I certainly don't abide by that philosophy, and neither do my shooting friends. I can afford whatever .22 I want, but I tend to look at value, not price, and I wouldn't be caught dead in a Walmart.

 

[CraigC]

In that we are in agreement but I would postulate that those of us who participate on shooting forums are in the minority.

Maybe I should clarify that I think a tubular magazine is a wonderful thing on a field gun and truth be told, I prefer one to a detachable box magazine as I prefer a levergun to all others. However, if we're measuring groups and not how many bunnies we can kill, a free-floated match grade barrel is the order of the day.

 

[chas08]

I can afford whatever .22 I want, but I tend to look at value, not price, and I wouldn't be caught dead in a Walmart.

LOL!!!... Wow!!! That comment probably just alienated you from the vast majority of us common folks that read and post here. And all this time I thought that Wal-Mart was where you bought a Model 60 these days. ROFLMAO!!!! This thread is about dead, it's been a hoot to read. Thanks Mods for letting it run.

 

[CraigC]

Personally, I don't go to Walmart unless I absolutely have to, for myriad reasons.

 

[donkee]

BoilerUp,

A 10-22 mag can be replaced for $12. The tube magazine on your Marlin will wear out and when it does it will cost you more to get the gun fixed than the gun is worth. Got a couple of non useable Marlin 60's in the closet that I had as a kid, I'm not willing to get them fixed because of the cost. The Rugers, which have had many, many more rounds through them are still going strong.

Want to sell those unusable Marlin 60s?

 

[HGUNHNTR]

That comment probably just alienated you from the vast majority of us common folks that read and post here

I happily alienated myself from the "common" folk a long time ago my friend. Perhaps our whole economy would be in better shape if more folks were to consider the quality and origin of the products they were purchasing, rather than just the number on the price tag. You have your Walmart to thank for the cheap crap, and lack of quality that is so prevalent today. It's funny really how American's thirst for low pricing has deepened their debt and destroyed the future of their jobs. When you buy your guns, ammo, shower curtains at Walmart you take away from local businesses that would in turn support you. So...to save a couple bucks you drive out potential business for the goods or services you produce. Did saving a couple bucks short term really help you? This is the type of thread that is generally frowned upon at THR, but these are issues that are facing the future of shooting sports. Variety in products and places to purchase products are key to the longevity, and security of our sport, whether it's IDPA or duck hunting. Being a common person doesn't have to entail shortsightedness, and backward thinking.

 

[MIgunguy]

I had to respond to the Wal Mart comment... I avoid them like the plague. I hate 'em.

 

[CraigC]

I happily alienated myself from the "common" folk a long time ago my friend. Perhaps our whole economy would be in better shape if more folks were to consider the quality and origin of the products they were purchasing, rather than just the number on the price tag. You have your Walmart to thank for the cheap crap, and lack of quality that is so prevalent today. It's funny really how American's thirst for low pricing has deepened their debt and destroyed the future of their jobs. When you buy your guns, ammo, shower curtains at Walmart you take away from local businesses that would in turn support you. So...to save a couple bucks you drive out potential business for the goods or services you produce. Did saving a couple bucks short term really help you? This is the type of thread that is generally frowned upon at THR, but these are issues that are facing the future of shooting sports. Variety in products and places to purchase products are key to the longevity, and security of our sport, whether it's IDPA or duck hunting. Being a common person doesn't have to entail shortsightedness, and backward thinking.

Amen brother!!!

 

[Fastcast]

I happily alienated myself from the "common" folk a long time ago my friend.

Me too....

 

[chas08]

I happily alienated myself from the "common" folk a long time ago my friend. Perhaps our whole economy would be in better shape if more folks were to consider the quality and origin of the products they were purchasing, rather than just the number on the price tag.

Now you have gotten my curiosity up. Where do you shop? If you have time to answer before the mods shut this thread down.

 

[CraigC]

I buy my .22LR, .223 and .45ACP ammo (I handload the rest) from a locally owned sporting good store in Corinth, MS and actually pay less than Walmart. I save $2 per brick of .22LR and fifty cents per 50rds of .45ACP. The .223 ammo is a wash. I buy guns from local shops and don't even worry about Walmart prices. Anything not gun-related, I buy from local stores. I would rather starve than buy groceries at Walmart.

A wise man once said, "the problem is not taking everything into consideration; the problem is the millions of people who take nothing into consideration". As HGUNHNTR stated, Americans have become WAAAAAAY too bottom line driven. We are a nation of greedy consumers obsessed with "saving money" and addicted to cheap foreign garbage, because it allows us to have more stuff. Creating the illusion that we have more than we really do. This is one good reason, among others, why our economy is in the tank and China has so much of our cash. Liberty and the american dream sold to the lowest bidder.

 

[chas08]

As HGUNHNTR stated, Americans have become WAAAAAAY too bottom line driven.

Since I live in a small town by my own choosing. I do many things the same as you, mostly through the internet. I also try to get the highest quality for my dollar as is possible. But when comparing apples to apples, the same exact prefered brand, I go with the cheaper price because it allows me more for my dollar.

Even my favorite brands are now being made overseas, Woolrich, LL Bean, Carhart, to name a few. A Carhart coat, or a case of Winchester AA's are the same no matter where you buy them. I would imagine this would hold true also for firearms such as the Ruger 10/22 or the marlin 60.

The corporate "gods" have sold America down the tubes by sending jobs overseas, not the common folk that you and the others have alienated yourselves from, by trying to get the most from their hard earned dollar.

I've enjoyed the exchange, it's good to look at life through anothers paradigm now and then. Thanks mods for allowing it, Y'all have a nice day.