Double Naught Spy
Sus Venator
This is a repost and update from the other 1000 round match thread...http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=310567
Given that it was buried on page 5, I thought I would repost it here. No discussion is necessary as we are just announcing the match.
With the help of Littlemac and JohnKSa, I will host a 1000 round match at my place for up to 12 shooters. It will be Saturday, April 26, 2008. My place is located in Montague County, Texas, about 90 minutes north of DFW airport.
Purpose?
1. To see which makes/models run better over long runs of ammo.
2. A Good time and maybe some bragging rights.
This is a spinoff match from the fun Glock vs. 1911 1000 round grudge matches that were all about bragging rights to which gun was best. This match is expanded to include any legal semi-auto pistol. It will be interesting to see how various makes, models, and calibers perform. We'll post the results.
The preliminary course of fire will be this...
20 stages of 50 rounds per stage
All 50 rounds are to be shot within a set time, say 90 seconds (TBD)
Stage times are the total time allowed for the stage, including malfunctions.
Every malfunction will be recorded for the full duration or until shooter quits, gun breaks, or the gun reaches 50 malfunctions. In the interest of time as it is only a 1 day match
No gun will be allowed to be serviced once the first shot is fired. So no cleaning, lubing, wiping, tightening, repairing, or otherwise adjusting, etc.
Malfunctions will be noted as to when they occurred in the stage and described based on descriptive and NOT diagnostic parameters. For example, a hammer drop on a live round that does not detonate will be a FAIL TO FIRE and not be called a hard primer, light primer strike, or bad primer since a determination of the of these specific causes would require a detailed examination of all the components involved before the issue could be resolved. Similarly, a FAIL TO FEED issue won't be attributed to bad ammo, weak mag spring, or a weak recoil spring. And so on.
The malfunction will be cleared by the shooter while being documented by a recordkeeper and the shooter will then continue the stage.
Non-function-related problems will also be noted. For example, if someone has a grip work loose, sight insert fall out, but the gun can still be shot safely, we will note the problem and allow the gun to continue in the match.
Requirements:
1. Shooters much have state concealed carry permit or LEO certs. That is just the screening process since few of us will actually know each other before the match.
2. 7 magazines or more for their gun and the mags must hold at least 7 rounds. Each stage will be shot starting with one in the chamber and then the 7 mags so that shooters all have a comparable number of magazine changes.
3. 1000 rounds of ammo
4. Semi auto pistol for the match
5. Typical eye and ear protection
Strongly suggested aspects:
1. Stock pistols, ESPECIALLY PISTOLS THAT NEVER MALFUNCTION
2. Factory ammo
3. 8 magazines instead of 7
Targets will be steel targets. There will be approximately 4 different setups shot 5 times each. Distances will be varied and some longer range shooting (50 yards or so) will take place.
Those who are interested may PM me for more information. Please include your email address.
Given that it was buried on page 5, I thought I would repost it here. No discussion is necessary as we are just announcing the match.
With the help of Littlemac and JohnKSa, I will host a 1000 round match at my place for up to 12 shooters. It will be Saturday, April 26, 2008. My place is located in Montague County, Texas, about 90 minutes north of DFW airport.
Purpose?
1. To see which makes/models run better over long runs of ammo.
2. A Good time and maybe some bragging rights.
This is a spinoff match from the fun Glock vs. 1911 1000 round grudge matches that were all about bragging rights to which gun was best. This match is expanded to include any legal semi-auto pistol. It will be interesting to see how various makes, models, and calibers perform. We'll post the results.
The preliminary course of fire will be this...
20 stages of 50 rounds per stage
All 50 rounds are to be shot within a set time, say 90 seconds (TBD)
Stage times are the total time allowed for the stage, including malfunctions.
Every malfunction will be recorded for the full duration or until shooter quits, gun breaks, or the gun reaches 50 malfunctions. In the interest of time as it is only a 1 day match
No gun will be allowed to be serviced once the first shot is fired. So no cleaning, lubing, wiping, tightening, repairing, or otherwise adjusting, etc.
Malfunctions will be noted as to when they occurred in the stage and described based on descriptive and NOT diagnostic parameters. For example, a hammer drop on a live round that does not detonate will be a FAIL TO FIRE and not be called a hard primer, light primer strike, or bad primer since a determination of the of these specific causes would require a detailed examination of all the components involved before the issue could be resolved. Similarly, a FAIL TO FEED issue won't be attributed to bad ammo, weak mag spring, or a weak recoil spring. And so on.
The malfunction will be cleared by the shooter while being documented by a recordkeeper and the shooter will then continue the stage.
Non-function-related problems will also be noted. For example, if someone has a grip work loose, sight insert fall out, but the gun can still be shot safely, we will note the problem and allow the gun to continue in the match.
Requirements:
1. Shooters much have state concealed carry permit or LEO certs. That is just the screening process since few of us will actually know each other before the match.
2. 7 magazines or more for their gun and the mags must hold at least 7 rounds. Each stage will be shot starting with one in the chamber and then the 7 mags so that shooters all have a comparable number of magazine changes.
3. 1000 rounds of ammo
4. Semi auto pistol for the match
5. Typical eye and ear protection
Strongly suggested aspects:
1. Stock pistols, ESPECIALLY PISTOLS THAT NEVER MALFUNCTION
2. Factory ammo
3. 8 magazines instead of 7
Targets will be steel targets. There will be approximately 4 different setups shot 5 times each. Distances will be varied and some longer range shooting (50 yards or so) will take place.
Those who are interested may PM me for more information. Please include your email address.
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