The AR 30 does shoot pretty well...
Amalite though, if you care.
Amalite though, if you care.
1000 yard rifle for 3k or less (no optics)
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Savage keeps on winning 1000 yard international competitions with their off the shelf rifles. Those are $1500 rifles at most. Add a better barrel and you could be extremely accurate at 1000 yards. BTW not only are the stocks better on the upper end rifles but so are the actions. Their target action is very good. You can also get an after market trigger for those rifles that are known to be excellent.
It doesn't always take huge amounts of money to shoot 1000 yards. Savage has proven that. In those international contests they are winning they are competing with custom built rifles too BTW. IMO that's amazing. It's the reason I bought a Savage instead of a Remington and I haven't regretted it one second. Mine is a .223 mainly because I found a really good deal on one when I was looking for a long range rifle. I have no problems shooting tight groups at 500 yards. I've never had a chance to shoot any farther than that to be honest. With the right ammo and the right wind conditions I can shoot 2" groups at 500 yards. There have been a few times I did better than that but a very few. 2" isn't that unusual at all. No it won't do it every time but ammo and wind contribute to that quite a bit.
I'm not going to say that Savage makes the best rifles on earth obviously. I haven't shot every rifle on earth. But I do know they are plenty accurate at 500 yards using .223 ammo. Of course a heavier bullet is going to be less affected by the wind so those distances can be extended. I'd say you could buy good rifle and have plenty of cash left over for glass and mounts if you go with a Savage.
It doesn't always take huge amounts of money to shoot 1000 yards. Savage has proven that. In those international contests they are winning they are competing with custom built rifles too BTW. IMO that's amazing. It's the reason I bought a Savage instead of a Remington and I haven't regretted it one second. Mine is a .223 mainly because I found a really good deal on one when I was looking for a long range rifle. I have no problems shooting tight groups at 500 yards. I've never had a chance to shoot any farther than that to be honest. With the right ammo and the right wind conditions I can shoot 2" groups at 500 yards. There have been a few times I did better than that but a very few. 2" isn't that unusual at all. No it won't do it every time but ammo and wind contribute to that quite a bit.
I'm not going to say that Savage makes the best rifles on earth obviously. I haven't shot every rifle on earth. But I do know they are plenty accurate at 500 yards using .223 ammo. Of course a heavier bullet is going to be less affected by the wind so those distances can be extended. I'd say you could buy good rifle and have plenty of cash left over for glass and mounts if you go with a Savage.
SabbathWolf
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I agree 100%
My neighbor has a REALLY nice Remy 700 that he has sunk around $3k into, not even including glass. It's a BEAUTIFUL rifle without any doubt what so ever.
However, he gets so ticked-off now when I out-shoot him with my $1k Savage, that he only wants to shoot pistols and carbines with me now and leaves his bolt rifle at home when we get together.....lol
USSR
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Have done a bit of LR shooting in my day, and would really like to see that done.
Don
SabbathWolf
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We have fired each other's rifles.
Here we go. Someone always doubts stuff they can't do themselves. Just because you can't it doesn't mean I can't friend. BTW I've been shooting for 50 years. I grew up on a gun range and I knew some great shooters from the time I was just a young kid on.
So let's avoid the rush and I'll go ahead and add you to my kill filter. Well I'll give you until tomorrow to tell me if you want to travel to eastern Kentucky to my gun range. They have actually added a 600 yard range recently and I've been wanting to get back there. I moved away from the area but I kept my membership until I can get into the local club which shouldn't be too long. But I'll be a member back in KY for the rest of the year. So PM me if you want a demonstration. I won't discuss this in an open forum.
So let's avoid the rush and I'll go ahead and add you to my kill filter. Well I'll give you until tomorrow to tell me if you want to travel to eastern Kentucky to my gun range. They have actually added a 600 yard range recently and I've been wanting to get back there. I moved away from the area but I kept my membership until I can get into the local club which shouldn't be too long. But I'll be a member back in KY for the rest of the year. So PM me if you want a demonstration. I won't discuss this in an open forum.
Loc n Load
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Have been shooting & instructing "precision" rifle for 30 years. Our rifles, ammo,technology and optics have come a long way in that time frame. I shoot everything from .223 to 50 BMg's at long ranges 1000yds and beyond with the big boomers like the 338 Lapua, 416 and 50's. There are a lot of bone stock rifles nowadays coupled with the right ammo, and good optics will get the job done well at 1000 yds. Never go cheap with your optics, I use Nightforce on all of my serious long range rifles. I have shot a lot of the Schimdt and Bender products and Zeiss and they are all great optics, but for my money the Nightforce is a great value for the money involved.
I currently use a Rem 700 .308 SPS in a Accuracry Int'l stock with a nightforce 8-32X NSX scope, you will also need 20 moa bases for your scope if you are going to 1000 yds. My 700 will shoot sub MOA at 1000 if I do my job. The Remington is a out of the box rifle, no mod's. I have a little over 3K in it total. I have shot a lot of "high end" rifles and a lot of "bone stock" rifles. Sub Moa is Sub moa regardless of what platform is delivering the ordnance. If you are serious about the .338 Lapua, then I would look at the AR-30 and the Savage rifles that they have out now.....I own and shoot .338's in both of them and they are solid performers and a good value for the money IMO.
Have been shooting & instructing "precision" rifle for 30 years. Our rifles, ammo,technology and optics have come a long way in that time frame. I shoot everything from .223 to 50 BMg's at long ranges 1000yds and beyond with the big boomers like the 338 Lapua, 416 and 50's. There are a lot of bone stock rifles nowadays coupled with the right ammo, and good optics will get the job done well at 1000 yds. Never go cheap with your optics, I use Nightforce on all of my serious long range rifles. I have shot a lot of the Schimdt and Bender products and Zeiss and they are all great optics, but for my money the Nightforce is a great value for the money involved.
I currently use a Rem 700 .308 SPS in a Accuracry Int'l stock with a nightforce 8-32X NSX scope, you will also need 20 moa bases for your scope if you are going to 1000 yds. My 700 will shoot sub MOA at 1000 if I do my job. The Remington is a out of the box rifle, no mod's. I have a little over 3K in it total. I have shot a lot of "high end" rifles and a lot of "bone stock" rifles. Sub Moa is Sub moa regardless of what platform is delivering the ordnance. If you are serious about the .338 Lapua, then I would look at the AR-30 and the Savage rifles that they have out now.....I own and shoot .338's in both of them and they are solid performers and a good value for the money IMO.
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Wow,
This thread caught my eye but when the early posts mention Georgia Precision my cheap butt moved on. One of the last few threads dealt with competition between two guys and their favorite rifles and the cheaper whippin the more expensive.
My point, I've read quite a few posts of guys and gals drilling 1/2" groups with really affordable guns, all of which I question not one bit. I have bought my fair share of (affordable for me) rifles that have stellar reputations for accuracy, have spent more dollars on upgraded stocks, scopes, etc. and I've determined one absolute thing.................it all starts with the guy pullin the trigger, is he capable? I may have taught myself a difficult lesson.
This thread caught my eye but when the early posts mention Georgia Precision my cheap butt moved on. One of the last few threads dealt with competition between two guys and their favorite rifles and the cheaper whippin the more expensive.
My point, I've read quite a few posts of guys and gals drilling 1/2" groups with really affordable guns, all of which I question not one bit. I have bought my fair share of (affordable for me) rifles that have stellar reputations for accuracy, have spent more dollars on upgraded stocks, scopes, etc. and I've determined one absolute thing.................it all starts with the guy pullin the trigger, is he capable? I may have taught myself a difficult lesson.
USSR
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Cee Zee,
I simply stated I'd "like to see it done". You see, unlike you, I've shot in 1,000 yard competition for many years. Shot alongside of some of the best shooters in the country. Never saw anybody for whom 2" groups at 500 yards "isn't that unusual at all". Would sincerely love to see it before I die, but unfortunately I have to work and can't be running off to Kentucky. Keep up the good work.
Don
I simply stated I'd "like to see it done". You see, unlike you, I've shot in 1,000 yard competition for many years. Shot alongside of some of the best shooters in the country. Never saw anybody for whom 2" groups at 500 yards "isn't that unusual at all". Would sincerely love to see it before I die, but unfortunately I have to work and can't be running off to Kentucky. Keep up the good work.
Don
Well Don I hate to tell you but I have done it many times. Don't put me in the position of having to defend my shooting. I could explain how I've won 13 out of the last 15 contests I shot in. I could explain how people ask me to do shooting demonstrations for groups. But someone who doubts what I say is going to doubt that too. But the plain fact is I don't lie. Unless there is a greater evil that would result if I didn't lie I won't lie. It's a Christian thing and I take it very seriously. I know people who shoot better than I do. But I do shoot pretty well. And now thanks to you I'm put in the position of having to say that or let people think I'm stretching the truth. Well I don't want people thinking I stretch the truth or exaggerate or color the truth or just plain lie. I take it VERY seriously not to do those things.
You wouldn't be the first to find out that I have done things that others say is impossible. It's nothing special about me. It's just something God blessed me with. Again there are things I am terrible at doing. I'm no better or worse than any other human. We all have our talents. Shooting happens to be one of mine.
I don't lie friend unless there is a mighty good reason to lie (like someone's life will be ruined and their innocent kids will go hungry for example - I wouldn't rat out someone for stealing a loaf of bread to feed those kids - those are the reasons that lying might be the best choice at times).
You wouldn't be the first to find out that I have done things that others say is impossible. It's nothing special about me. It's just something God blessed me with. Again there are things I am terrible at doing. I'm no better or worse than any other human. We all have our talents. Shooting happens to be one of mine.
I don't lie friend unless there is a mighty good reason to lie (like someone's life will be ruined and their innocent kids will go hungry for example - I wouldn't rat out someone for stealing a loaf of bread to feed those kids - those are the reasons that lying might be the best choice at times).
Strongbad
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$3k really puts you in serious custom territory. Man, the gun I could build with that kind of cash. If it were me, I'd start with a full custom action. BAT, Stiller, Stolle, Borden. All those come to mind. I'm not knocking the Savage but for that kind of money, you can do better. Then equip it with a nice custom barrel of your choice. Then equip it with a stock for the style of shooting you're going to be doing, i.e. bench, prone, etc.
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