1016 yards Idaho Black Bear hunting...

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Have a look at these guys...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daDk-tLZs5Q&feature=related

338 Allen Magnum, a 408 Chey Tac case necked down (and shoulder forwarded) to .338.......300 gr. at 3500+ fps

Just to give some perspective...the already monstrous 338-378 Weatherby Magnum will drive a 300 gr. Sierra Match King bullet at "only" 2800 fps.

One of the rifle shooting this monster weights "only" 12.8 pounds and it kicks almost like a 25-06...

A new dream rifle to look forward.....:D:evil:
 
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Very cool, but....why?
1000 yard shooting on a moving target is quite a feat, to be sure, but personally it has about the same appeal as hitting the critter with a howitzer. No appeal in it for me. Whatever happened to only shooting at animals close enough to see with the naked eye?
 
I do not condone what they have done at all...at that distance the chances for errors are sky high.

However I was commenting about the incredible cartridge and the rifle is fired from.
 
Amazing shot. Should we rethink our definition of sporting?
 
4v50 - that depends on what your definition of sporting is :) I am appalled that someone would take that shot.... We're talking 3/4 of a mile on that shot. A good gust of wind, they are shooting over a valley, which can have pretty gusty wind, and he injures instead of killing. It was an impressive shot and the round can do it but I still think that shot was nowhere near a good call.
 
4v50 - that depends on what your definition of sporting is I am appalled that someone would take that shot.... We're talking 3/4 of a mile on that shot. A good gust of wind, they are shooting over a valley, which can have pretty gusty wind, and he injures instead of killing. It was an impressive shot and the round can do it but I still think that shot was nowhere near a good call.
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I completely agree....
 
I'm surprised that they didn't get cited in Idaho. I know someone who came close to a citation for a 400 yard shot on a big mule deer. If she didn't drop it DRT, she would have gotten one.
 
Just to give some perspective...the already monstrous 338-378 Weatherby Magnum will drive a 300 gr. Sierra Match King bullet at "only" 2800 fps.
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Something beat out my Weatherbys?!?!?! That is a MONSTER CARTRIDGE.
 
If the man and the platform can perform..out to those ranges with solid confidence who's to say otherwise? I think the feat in technology and craftsmanship in what these guys are capable of doing today is jaw dropping.

No one should be unhappy that the average joe can get a custom rifle of this magnitude. This sparks the desire for greater quality out of normal manufactures.. competing against the private sector for your money this is a very good thing!
 
No one should be unhappy that the average joe can get a custom rifle of this magnitude
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I would not say that the average Joe can afford that kind of hardware....
 
The 408 Chey Tac and 416 Barret are the two best monster cartidges out there IMO. I just wouldn't use them for hunting because if I can't get closer than that I wouldn't consider myself a hunter. Give those guys a stick and a string and see what would happen.
 
Well, one of the main reasons why these rifles (and cartridges) are not really intended for hunting is because even with the best technology we are still talking about a 14 pounds rifle (excluding optics....and a reliable 1000 yard scope capable of taking that kind of abuse is not light....) and a 30+ inch barrel....not exactly someone you want to log around hiking.

With these kinf of boomers, you basically sit atop of a hill with your rifle and bipod/bench ready waiting for yoru prey to walk ont he other side of the valley...I would call it "static hunting" or "lazy man hunting" or "couch potato hunting" :D
 
I want to know how long it took them to get to the bear, and to get it out of there. Did they use the bear? Or just kill it for the "sport" of it? JMHO, but I don't think that's "hunting" as much as simply "calling in an artillery strike". What the hell would they have done if it was a gutshot hit, and it ran off terribly wounded?

"Sportsmen", bah. Hunting is one thing, and that ain't hunting IMO. At least not how I was taught that it was done. No wonder I don't hunt.

Now, shooting at a steel plate about 24"x24" at 1000+ yards? I'd consider that sporting!
 
I remember reading a story in Outdoor Life, or Field & Stream or some such magazine years ago, about a group of handicapped (wheelchair bound) hunters who shot deer from long (out to 1,000 yards or so) range.

They actually set up like an artillery battery with a spotter with BIG binoculars, another guy with a military rangefinder, and a shooter using an almost benchrest type rifle shooting from a portable bench. The spotter would spot the game, watch for bullet hits, and call corrections to the shooter. They were so far away the animal never heard the shots, or at least didn't associate the sound with danger.

When an animal was killed, either the spotter or the range finder, who weren't disabled would go to find the animal, while the other one watched through the binoculars and directed the recovery by hand signals IIRC, or maybe CB radio. I forget what rifles they used.
 
Well, the rifle and cartridge are certainly up to the task. He mentioned the EXbal ballistics software and I could see the scope level and angle indicator. I'm assuming they also had a Kestral (or similar) weather meter plus laser range finder. With pro long range shooters on the trigger, that shot is probably as reasonable (given all the above factors) as one taken by an average hunter at 250-300.
 
Amazing shot. Enjoyed the video. I hunt with everything from a stickbow to 400 or so yard rifle shots.

I can't believe so many people are upset by this video. It was obvious they did all of the homework required to take this shot ethically. Why not complain about people that actually gut-shoot animals or take shots that they shouldn't? Sounds like the people that think I'm wrong for hunting with an AR-10 variant even though it's more accurate than most bolt guns.
 
I would not say that the average Joe can afford that kind of hardware....
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Why not? The average Joe can afford a bass boat, or a shiny new pickup truck instead of an old beater, with savings and motivation.

We live in a country where the average Joe can afford a personal airplane, and I know people who do. Career Air Force weathermen, insurance salesmen, mechanics. Yes, it means sacrificing something else, but everybody has to have a hobby.
 
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