10mm 1911

[swinokur]

Don't forget to consider a 3rd generation Smith and Wesson 10xx series auto. Not a 1911 but the best 10mm auto ever built IMHO. I got each of mine on Gunbroker for less than 700 dollars each and they shoot anything, and I mean anything. I regularly shoot Swampfox 180g 1400 FPS ammo out of them no issues.

They are tanks.

shown 1066,1006,1026, 1076

 

[gunnysmith]

I suggest fully supported chambers I’ll post these with no further opinion

EEA fully supported 38 super


1911 barrels


40 S&W case



40 S&W sectioned



40 S&W case with bulge



Sectioned resized view of bulged case

 

[sargents1]

Nice Photos Gunny.

The chamber support (in this case, lack thereof) on those throated barrels is scary.

Makes me glad I bought a Glock instead of a Colt.

 

[gunnysmith]

 

[hogrdr]

Nice Photos Gunny.

The chamber support (in this case, lack thereof) on those throated barrels is scary.

Makes me glad I bought a Glock instead of a Colt.

never owned one but i don't *think* the glock is supported

 

[gunnysmith]

Glocks are not a supported chamber, available after market barrels are made to correct the issue.
I haven't followed the latest generation of Glocks.
They may have addressed this issue directly.
Remember, the Glock was designed and submitted for a military contract, reloading and liabilities were not in consideration.
That is the reason Glock would not warrantee any firearm that was using reloaded ammo.

 

[armysniper]

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[gunnysmith]

armysniper
Pretty 1 1/4 inch blue square, what are you trying to say????????? LOL

 

[hogrdr]

gunny guy i just cut a starline 10mm in half and measured the un-supported area on my cbob. it had a thirty seconths of an inch unsupported in the throated area,bottom half. safe to shoot with heavy loads? double tap ammo.

 

[gunnysmith]

In my opinion when the chamber supports to the front edge of the extractor grove of the cartridge forward is full supported.
With the standard colt 45 ACP 1911, ther wasn't the "hot rodding" of loads.
Accuracy was the goal.
The new shooting sports are accuracy plus power factor rated, knocking down certain weights of steel targets, thus the "hot rodding".
I cast no opinions or aspersions for or against any particular firearm or cartridge, I only wish to keep the sport safe.
I am only advising and pointing to possible weaknesses before accidents occur.

 

[hogrdr]

In my opinion when the chamber supports to the front edge of the extractor grove of the cartridge forward is full supported.
With the standard colt 45 ACP 1911, ther wasn't the "hot rodding" of loads.
Accuracy was the goal.
The new shooting sports are accuracy plus power factor rated, knocking down certain weights of steel targets, thus the "hot rodding".
I cast no opinions or aspersions for or against any particular firearm or cartridge, I only wish to keep the sport safe.
I am only advising and pointing to possible weaknesses before accidents occur.

what i meant was the part of the brass between the solid head and the back of the barrel was a 32nd best i could measure.maby just a hair less but no more. probably didn't make any sense. if the head was a tad thicker it would have no un supported area of the thin wall,, i tried to take pics but i couldn't get any clear enough to post with my camera that close up; does anybody make brass with a thicker head?

 

[hogrdr]

don't mean to hi=jack this thread, but there is a lot of confusion on this. might help somebody decide on a purchase. if i had known earlier, the guy would still have his cbob and i would still have my 1200.00

 

[gunnysmith]

This case is fully supported;



These are not: although the one on the right is close it does not enclose to the extractor grove forward edge.

 

[hogrdr]

in the last pic of the 38 super on the right, my un-ramped dan has that much support, shows about that much case on bottom.