11 Million New Class 3 Gun Owners

[antarti]

One million nfa toting gun nuts marching on the capital... I like where this is going

I just wish the Constitution had a gun...

 

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Pax said it best in another thread: Complaining that illegals break the law is just a smokescreen. If it was the act of law-breaking that bothered folks, then the simple, direct, obvious solution is to eliminate the law. Make illegal immigrants, well, umm, legal. Voila! No more law-breaking.

But any such proposal is resoundingly shouted down.

Nope, it ain't about illegals breaking the law. It's about not wanting any more Mexicans (or any other nationality) in "our" country. America is for Americans, and all that guff...

Personally, I don't care one whit about how many Mexicans there are living and working here peacefully. So long as they aren't sucking down all of my tax dollars, then they aren't harming me or anyone else.

Yeah, I suppose if you work some mindless unskilled labor job for an unreasonably high wage, then you may soon find yourself out of work. But that isn't the immigrants' fault. That's simply the natural and expected outcome in any competitive/free market. If you can't compete, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Welcome to the real world.

I suppose it's tempting to try to evade the harsh realities of the free market. It's always easier to rig the rules of the game in your favor, than it is to win on equal footing. Thus all the wheeping and gnashing about how illegals are "bad" for the economy.

Anyone remember back to the early days of the debate on the AWB, when Ruger pushed for the 10-round mag limit so that their low-cap semi-autos would be more competitive with all the high-cap guns out there? See any parallels??





Want to solve the illegal immigration problem?

Make it a crime to provide free government/social services to anyone who can't prove citizenship. Put some real security in place at our borders (all of them, not just along the Rio) so that jihadists and gansters and criminals can't get in without causing a ruckus and getting caught. Maybe eliminate the minimum wage, so that everyone can compete equally for all the bottom-feeder jobs out there.

That's all it would take. Easy, eh? You could right the law in about three paragraphs.

Of course, this doesn't do anything to prevent Mexicans from living here. It simply ensures that Mexicans can't live here at everyone else's expense. So the xenophobes will never agree to it. Sadly, they seem to be the majority these days.

 

[Maxwell]

Uhhh, yes it is. Much different. See, owning a weapon hurts no one. Illegal aliens hurt everyone's economy, national morale, the education (or at least intelligence) level, cultural norms...that's an awful lot of damage.

The migration itself is not harmful at all, its the free ride our politicians willingly dish out in the process of vote whoaring thats going to be disasterous. Willingly letting illegals stay, willingly paying for their stay, and willingly letting employers break the law to keep them.
Thats what does damage.

I think the problem with our numbers is that one side is fighitng for its next meal, we are fighting for what many only see as a hobby.

If your not willing to fight to keep your weapon, the other side will just call the bluff. If your not even willing to march or even simply make firearms rights your single issue for an election, politicians will focus on less devisive issues to get your vote.
So now we're choosing our next leader based on his immigration views... what that has to do with getting our gun rights back, Im not too sure.

 

[Sam Adams]

Nobody here seems to mind that there are millions of people breaking the law by owning undocumented machineguns.

Oh, really? I'm sure that there are many tens of thousands, maybe even 100,000, but "millions" of undocumented machineguns? I don't think so.

...and even if there were, the laws against them arguably violated the Constitution. Quite a different matter from someone being in this country contrary to this country's laws. You see, we have a right as a society to set our boundaries and enforce them, and to allow or disallow entry to anyone who otherwise has no right to live here.