12GA Rifle From HELL--

[hubel458]

John--Glad you like it-Good luck with project.
Here is picture of the original Bridger 750 gr banded solid
flat nose. 2nd is a semi-spitzer 640grI made from it, long range
capable(for vicious p-dogs). 3rd is a shortened round nose 500gr
I made from first one.And a Foster slug to compare with.Ed

 

[Story]

Someone expecting Graboids in their basement?

 

[hubel458]

If not them, big rats. Shot loads ought to work.
Getting so many ideas on different slugs and sabot
loads,many for smoothbore,I going to have to get
a smoothbore to test with.Ed

 

[Heavy Barrel]

Not trying to start a war but enlighten me on its usefullness other than a toy.

 

[SB88LX]

Cartridge that will kill any biological life form on the earth in short order, useful enough I guess.





*edited for grammar/spelling.

 

[Heavy Barrel]

I'll buy that!

 

[hubel458]

The biggest benefit will be for shotgun only
hunters....They may even get feeling so good,
that they will look down their noses at rifle
guys having only puny cartridges.HaHah..Ed.

 

[hubel458]

Lefteris from greece clued me in on the Nova pumpgun.
Looked at Benelli Nova pump 12ga. It has
rotary bolt, 2 locking lugs. And they lock
into a reciever section that barrel screws into and that reciever locks into action.
Lefteris sent me the info and measurements,and
reciver ring is nearly as big as reciever on my Savage. So a heavy alloy barrel could be put
in and Lefteris figured out a way to increase
the bolt lug contact area. Should handle
25k psi.Now big question- how many other
brands of pump 10&12 gauges have rotary locking bolts,either into barrel or reciever?...I
know Al's big 4bore Tula does also.Ed.

 

[hubel458]

Here is some sabot experimenting I did.Shot a couple of
A-Sq 900gr 600 NE slugs in a sabot I made from a heavy
12ga shotcup.Got it to 2300 at my moderate pressures.Here is picture showing slugs, shotcup and one loaded.Shotcup in case
is first one I made- too short. The ones finally used were full
length of slug up to ogive.Ed.

 

[Coronach]

...a 900 gr sabot.

Holy freakin CARP.

Use enough gun, eh?

Mike

 

[madmike]

say again backspace and repeat


How about calling it the .729 Redneck?

bout time there was some good publicity for that epithet.

 

[.45Guy]

How about calling it the .729 Redneck?

Dangit, I just had beer shoot from my nostrils. That is too funny.

 

[Longbow]

Is recoil even manageable????

Better yet, is the recoil survivable??

 

[dmckean44]

I imagine recoil would be ok but I'm not sure I could keep a 25 lb gun held straight for more than one or two shots.

 

[hubel458]

It's not bad to hold.And if I used it regular for the
field I'd take off 5 lbs. Tailgunner a poster around the net fired it 6 times and held it ok and he is little guy.
It is such a rush firing it that it pumps you up,
kinda gives strength to deal with the weight.Ed.

 

[spooney]

I think the Winchester 1300 has a rotary bolt head, I believe with 4 locking lugs as well. I could be wrong though.

 

[madmike]

I thought the Win 1300 also had a sintered receiver. If so,

 

[Ol` Joe]

If the M1300 is similar to the old 1200 it replaced, it locks in the barrel not the reciever so the material used there dosen`t matter too much. I did hear though they are gone along with the M94 and M70, built in the same plant. The M1200 BTW had a aluminum alloy reciever.

 

[hubel458]

Just saw pics of Win 1200-1400 in Gunparts
catalog and they have a rotating bolt that
locks into barrel, with what looks like 4 lugs.
So it has possibilities with heavy barrel, like the
Benelli Nova. Ed.

 

[MrTwigg]

My second time on this thread...

I will say after reading every page of this I have nothing but respect for the quality of your work on this project. This is one fantastic rifle.

A tip O' the Stetson to you ! Again, great work !

 

[hubel458]

Thanks MrTwigg--Soon we will be testing a few Dixie
Hollowbase hardened slugs, for speed.And some brass slugs
from Greece. Very interesting project.There is an order
getting set up to have Hawk make some soft jacketed
750 gr 12ga bullets.Ed.

 

[hubel458]

Measured the 12ga sabot for the 3/4 oz Barnes
that Federal loads, will also hold various 500 S&W bullets
out there and the lightest 505 bullets.The 3/4 oz Barnes
is .500 diameter. 505 fits pretty good also.Amazing all the stuff you can put together for our cartridge.Ed.

 

[Wes Janson]

Unbelievable. It's truly special to see such wild experimentation going on, unfortunately not a common sight. I only wish I lived closer, so I could watch firsthand. Neat!

 

[hubel458]

More experimenting with sabots--I found that
the front section of a 50 bmg bore rider bullet, it
is 2nd in picture, fits in the sabot. It
is 470 grains, really streamlined.And
you can buy them by the ton, just cut back
portion that is .510 diameter, off, and that leaves
front part for a .500 dia bullet,
1.5 inches long..Good for armor plated chucks.
First in picture is original
sabot with Barnes 3/4 oz hollowpoint slug.
3rd is the 900gr 600NE slug in my sabot
made from heavy shotcup. Got it up to 2300,low pressure.
4th on the miniature digital scale is an older Barnes .580 cal
saboted slug expanded, it's 435gr.Ed.

 

[P95Carry]

900 grain/2300 - wow!!!

Geez, that's approx 10,500 ft lbs - heck - dambuster material !!!