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14.5x114MM Rifles

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Kalashnikov, Jun 25, 2005.

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  1. Kalashnikov

    Kalashnikov Member

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    Are there any in country? I Know they have no realistic use, but I like guns a certain....uniqueness. Anyways I saw some shells at my milsupr store, ($5.50 a shell) and it got me thinking if there are any in america. Just curious is all.
     
  2. Mannlicher

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    South Africa makes a sniper rifle in this caliber, with an interchangeable barrel for a 20mm. cannon round for anti-materiel use. Nice gun - I've shot it. See here for details.

    I don't think any have been "officially" imported into this country, but I'd be surprised if Special Forces hadn't got its hands on one or two for evaluation, as they seem to do with just about any interesting weapon developed elsewhere.
     
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    Wouldn't that be a DD?
     
  5. Kalashnikov

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    Oh I know they're russian, at least in origin. I have the history of the cartridge somewhere around here. I was just wondering if any rifles had be imported into america. BY the time I could afford one, I would be able to show it off to my grandkids and ammo would be around $100 a round. Thanks for the info though.
     
  6. benEzra

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    They'd be NFA restricted if they were, since 14.7mm is over the .50-caliber cutoff for non-NFA civilian arms. (For those not fluent in both SI and U.S. customary measures, .50 caliber is 12.7mm.)

    All I can say is, wow...

    BTW, that rifle appears to me to be the model for the sniper rifle in the original HALO game. Same muzzle brake, carry handle over the scope objective, forward gas tube extension, hinge-down bipod in the same place.
     
  7. wasrjoe

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    Isn't it beautiful when form follows function?
     
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    That rifle in the link Mannlicher posted is the NTW20 which is made in South Africa. It can chambered for 20mm or 14.5mm Russian. Yes it is the sniper rifle you use in the Xbox hit Halo. :neener:

    More here
    http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
     
  9. Gabe

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    114.5mm has 175% the muzzle energy of .50BMG. Officially anything larger than 14.5mm is a cannon instead of rifle.
     
  10. Eightball

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    114.5mm :eek: ? So, that means that there actually are hand "cannons" out there? Sweet!
     
  11. Joejojoba111

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    14.5mm is probably the most powerful non-rocket assisted or recoilless cartridge that a human can fire.
     
  12. Kalashnikov

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    NFA? So does that mean if I have a ClassIII (hypothetically) I can own them? Well I can still dream :eek:
     
  13. LeonCarr

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    One guy that might know if there are any in the country is J.D. Jones at www.sskindustries.com

    If there aren't any of those rifles in the country, he can probably build you one, but it won't be cheap :).

    Just my .02,
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  14. Joejojoba111

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    With the press against .50 rifles, I don't see how anyone could avoid lynching should they own and operate a 14.5mm anti-tank rifle... except if they own and operate a 14.5mm anti-tank rifle...
     
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    If I remember correctly, in pre 1968 days surplus 14.5 mm Russian anti-tank rifles were for sale by "Ye Old Hunter" in full page ads that appeared in the American Rifleman and other gun mags of that era. Now if I only had any money back in those days I could have bought not only those, but .55 cal Boys anti-tank rifles and 20 mm Solothrun semi-auto guns.
     
  16. Kalashnikov

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    Well, if I save up until I'm 50 I might be able to buy a custom one. I have a new dream :D
     
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    I think that he would not be able to build you one because the register for destructive devices is closed along with the machine guns. Any rifle or handgun over the bore diameter of 12.7 or .50 is considered a destructive device and falls under the National Firearms Aco of 1932. I think the .50 BMG projectile is actually .510 and the 500 S&W is just a little over the .5. When measured groove to groove the bullet needs to be just a little bit larger, and the true bore dimension used by the NFA is measured land to land
     
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    Just neck it down to .50 and make a heck of a wildcat. A 3000+ fps .50 cal varmit gun! :what:
     
  19. Kalashnikov

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    Hmmm....an anti-tank varmint round....I like it! :evil:
     
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    Finally, I can get rid of that gopher that got a hold of an M1. He's been tearing up the property something terrible with it.
     

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    go to www.wolverinesupplies.com

    at the bottom they have those things for sale. They are approx. 1500$ canadian, so about 49.95$ US
     
  22. Joejojoba111

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    I wouldn't be surpried if the rifles cost only 1 or 2 hundred where they come from. But ammunition, that's going to be what, $10 a round? Can one even reload those, do they make primers?
     
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    Interesting notion for Californians, there are places in California where one can still get approval for a class III, but the .50 ban still applies. Can you imagine the bizarness of a world where one can obtain one of these 14.5mm monsters MORE EASILY than a .50BMG rifle?
     
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    NFA of 1934, and only closed to new MG registrations, not DDs. Besides, over .5" wasn't DD until 1968 GCA came along, IIRC...
     
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    That PTRD 14.5 rifle may kill tanks, but I can't imagine the recoil, look how light that thing looks. I'd imagine it'd be about 3 times the punishment the arab experienced in the 577 tyrannosaur video. :eek:



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    *edit* "
    The unique built in recoil damper and extremely effective muzzle brake make these rifles a delight to shoot,
    felt recoil is equivalent to a .30-06 hunting rifle." Nevermind then, I want one.
     
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