.17 M II, and .17HMR

[retiredsgt]

I just moved to Pa., and have finally got permission to do a little shooting(hunting) around the house. (Groundhogs)
What have y'all determined to be the effective range of the .17 M II and the .17 HMR. The area I am in is kinda populated, so I figure a smaller calibre should be better, noise wise. While living in Va., I did take a number of squirrel and fox with the .17 M II, but all of the shots were less than 80 yds. Just before moving I did opurchase a .17 HMR and I AM WONDERING WHAT THE EFFECTIVE RANGE ON IT WOULD BE. Thanks.

 

[Ol` Joe]

The area I am in is kinda populated, so I figure a smaller calibre should be better, noise wise.

My 17 HMR (CZ452) is nearly as loud as my 223. I don`t think they are worth it just for noise reduction.
I can`t help with G-Hog shooting, I`ve never popped one with my 17.

 

[Art Eatman]

I'd figure clean kills to a hundred yards, anyhow. Much beyond that, and body shots would lead to a bunch of flopping around, probably. Head shots? Probably 150?

Sorta guessing. I know from watching Justin that a Mach II will ruin prairie dogs to 100, and make clean kills to 200 (wind is a problem beyond 100).

 

[nj.piney]

my longest shot with a 17hmr was 168 yds.with a rangefinder,head shot.
savage model 93 hb prone with a bipod.

 

[Funderb]

.22 is quieter. get one that can handle the vipers or stingers or whatever the +P 22 load is. much quieter than .17, those things are LOUD.

eh, 100 yards for most shooters is good, with a scope.

 

[627PCFan]

I got a 10 pounder last year at 255(google earth distanced) 17hmr savage. I don't need those stinking laser rangfinders

Anything over 150, the hogs end up pumping dry, not necessarily quick-

 

[Horsemany]

You won't feel overgunned with the HMR. The mack II is a dead cartridge IMO. The report on my 17 HMR isn't nearly as loud as a 223. I would recommend it over any other if you are serious about shooting prairie dogs. It will be about 2x as loud as a 22lr. It makes the other rimfires look like toys IME. Good luck.

 

[retiredsgt]

.17 Mach II and .17 HMR

Thank you gentlemen! As I write this, I am watching a groundhog, that just came down out of my woods. Sitting in my back yard eating my grass. Probably an easy shot for my S. & W. model 17.

 

[rangerruck]

i would not hesitate with either round, to nail a coyote inside of 100 yds, I'd do a yote out to 150 with a 17 hmr. Fox and smaller with the mach 2, to 150, same animals above out to 200 with the hmr.

 

[rangerruck]

man, someone needs an earcheck; any centerfire, is much louder than a 17hmr- you can be next to an hmr without hearing protection, and it does not make painsound come to your ears, a 223 will def do so.

 

[Husker1911]

I got a 10 pounder last year at 255(google earth distanced) 17hmr savage. I don't need those stinking laser rangfinders

You googled after the fact. Rangefinders are a boon for actually making an accurate shot.

And I realize your posting was tongue-in-cheek.

 

[Horsemany]

Husker1911,

I don't mean to hijack here but I just got my tickets for the spring game in the mail!

 

[Husker1911]

Club seats here, my friend. Not a bench seat, but fold down seats with arm rests!

Horsemany is referring to the fact us crazy Nebraskans have SOLD OUT our state's college football team's Spring Game. Over 80K fans have paid $$ to attend, it's not free. Gotta love those Huskers!

 

[Funderb]

rangerruck-

The pain you would be feeling is the direct result of the report of a .223
sounding just like the whining scream of a preteen little girl.

 

[Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow]

The effective range of the .17 Hummer with wind under 10mph, let's say, and a good rest, is right about 150 yards, maybe 160, to hit a small target about 3"-3.5" across. With a stiffer crosswind, effective range is more like 125-130. With a severe wind (over 25 mph), maybe 100-110. Now if you're a practiced wind-doper, then you can extend that. I'm just talking about point -n- click.

Dunno about the mach 2.

 

[ambush]

I took a 10 lb G-hog with my Marlin 917VSL (.17HMR) @ 90 yds. Direct hit right behind the left ear. Rolled over, didn't move again. I can vouch for up to 90 yds.

 

[innerpiece]

yepp! yotes out past 100 for me with the Marlin 917.
actually, everything Ive shot with the 17HMR has died.. and the vast majority, with a single shot.

Federal VMax has been the most accurate overall, but Im liking the CCI 20gr gamepoint for the bigger small stuff.

ip

 

[Markbo]

...or whatever the +P 22 load is...

There is no such thing as a +P .22 rimfire load.

...The mack(sic) II is a dead cartridge IMO...

Not according to ATK - the company that manufactures almost all HM2 ammo.

man, someone needs an earcheck; any centerfire, is much louder than a 17hmr- you can be next to an hmr without hearing protection, and it does not make painsound come to your ears, a 223 will def do so.

Welcome to the dark side! You will join those of us who have already learned that our favorite words are "WHAT?" and "HUH?". It is a proven fact that even the lowly .22 causes irreversable hearing damage. The problem is that it is slight, but cumulative. By the time you ever notice your hearing is not that good anymore, it is much, much too late.

 

[Funderb]

There is no such thing as a +P .22 rimfire load.

true, there is only -P/+m for subsonics, and -m(mass) for high velocity.

 

[skinewmexico]

I've shot some really big jackrabbits with my 17 hmr at 150, and it was a bang flop deal. Big exit hole.