redneck2
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Thinking of getting a PD rifle in .17 Rem. Selection seems "thin". Local dealer has a 700 for $575. Prefer something in synthetic stock. I did a Google and pretty much came up empty. Any ideas??
.17 Remington
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The Rifleman
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You need to get in contact with Grice Gun Shop in Clearfield PA.
They have over 10,000 guns in stock and could help you with your problem..
They have a new Remington SPS Varmit 17 Remington Fireball for $499.95 after rebate... Now through April 30
Rem 700 VSF - $929.95 17 Rem Fireball
REM 700 LV - SF $839.95 - 17 Remington
Right now the big thing is the 204 Ruger.. They sell lot's of guns in that caliber.
Your problem is that until Remington allows all the other gun manufacturers to use their caliber - cartrage designation.. All you are going to be able to buy on in is a Remington.. Since Winchester went out of buisness - the other gun companies stay away from them odd ball cartriages that could ruin their profits...
The model 700 - LV - SF in 17 Remington has a 22 inch fluted stainless steel barrel - .0657 at muzzle, black composite stock / w beaver tail, R3 Limbsaver recoil pad, and a blind box reciever...
http://www.gricewholesale.com/
They have over 10,000 guns in stock and could help you with your problem..
They have a new Remington SPS Varmit 17 Remington Fireball for $499.95 after rebate... Now through April 30
Rem 700 VSF - $929.95 17 Rem Fireball
REM 700 LV - SF $839.95 - 17 Remington
Right now the big thing is the 204 Ruger.. They sell lot's of guns in that caliber.
Your problem is that until Remington allows all the other gun manufacturers to use their caliber - cartrage designation.. All you are going to be able to buy on in is a Remington.. Since Winchester went out of buisness - the other gun companies stay away from them odd ball cartriages that could ruin their profits...
The model 700 - LV - SF in 17 Remington has a 22 inch fluted stainless steel barrel - .0657 at muzzle, black composite stock / w beaver tail, R3 Limbsaver recoil pad, and a blind box reciever...
http://www.gricewholesale.com/
hagar
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If you have a Thompson Contender, just get a rifle barrel, and a buttstock. The 17 is a fabulous little shooter, it puts things down right there, and have minimal richochet risk. We had a guy in our hunting club shoot his 17 Remington VS in our 500 yard long range shoot one year, and I barely beat him with my 7mm Remington Sendero as far as group size. He shot a real small group, less than 5 inches, don't remember exactly.
That said, I just bought a 204 Ruger 23 inch bullbarrel for my TC, and I really think this cartridge is the cat's meow. Not as much energy at close range as a 22/250, but more at longer ranges, and a flatter trajectory.
That said, I just bought a 204 Ruger 23 inch bullbarrel for my TC, and I really think this cartridge is the cat's meow. Not as much energy at close range as a 22/250, but more at longer ranges, and a flatter trajectory.
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redneck2
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It's still a toss-up between the .17 Rem and .204. Since I'm looking at a small caliber, I was leaning toward the .17 as being fur friendly. My local dealer has that NIB 700 Rem in .17 for $575 or maybe a little less. Looks like that's a good price. The .204 is very intriguing, but I'm wondering how much difference there is between that and my 22-250.
Hagar....a while back you posted some loads for the 7 mag that I'm using in my Sendero. 162 A-Max's over RL-22. That's going to be my 1,000 yard gun. I ran across a guy that's got 18,000 acres with prarie dogs. Thanks.
Hagar....a while back you posted some loads for the 7 mag that I'm using in my Sendero. 162 A-Max's over RL-22. That's going to be my 1,000 yard gun. I ran across a guy that's got 18,000 acres with prarie dogs. Thanks.
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hagar
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Those 162 AMax's really shoot at 1000. Figure at over 1800 feet/sec remaining at that range, whereas a Palma rifle will be happy to have 1300 remaining. I only played around a little with it, as I did not want to replace my barrel every 1500 rounds, but they hammer X after X no problem.
I was shooting 63-64 grains of RL22 in mine, and I loaded them much longer than suggested oal for a 7mm. I think Varget is too fast for a 7mm.
I was shooting 63-64 grains of RL22 in mine, and I loaded them much longer than suggested oal for a 7mm. I think Varget is too fast for a 7mm.
rangerruck
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dont do it, there are better carts out there, such as the 204, 17fireball, also called the 17 mach 4, and maybe the new king of them all; from the savage custom shop, the 5.35c. a 32 grainer out of this baby leaves the muzzle at 4800fps, a 40 grainer is still sizzleing out at 4300fps from the muzzle.
it uses about 80% of the powder of a 22.250, but because of it's extra long neck, and far superior case design, with radial shoulders, has way better bbl life, and heats the bbl less than even a 223. The 17mach 4, or 17fireball, will be a remington factory cartridge this year, the savage 5.35c , im not sure if it is going to go factory or not, but Savage has all the specs , brass, dies, etc., for you to make.
The 17remington , is way overbore and bbl burining for the round, and the others are both more efficient, and faster, than the 17 remmy. the 204, and the 5.35c will have both better b.c. and s.d., plus the speed will let you do the explosive hits, all the way out to 500 yds. The 17mach 4 or 17fireball, is as fast as the 17remmy, but less powder, and better bbl life.
it uses about 80% of the powder of a 22.250, but because of it's extra long neck, and far superior case design, with radial shoulders, has way better bbl life, and heats the bbl less than even a 223. The 17mach 4, or 17fireball, will be a remington factory cartridge this year, the savage 5.35c , im not sure if it is going to go factory or not, but Savage has all the specs , brass, dies, etc., for you to make.
The 17remington , is way overbore and bbl burining for the round, and the others are both more efficient, and faster, than the 17 remmy. the 204, and the 5.35c will have both better b.c. and s.d., plus the speed will let you do the explosive hits, all the way out to 500 yds. The 17mach 4 or 17fireball, is as fast as the 17remmy, but less powder, and better bbl life.
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With the velocity that the .17 Remington is traveling, if you have a good design bullet that has good expansion, and it hits a bone - it is still going to make a big hole in the pelt of what ever you are shooting.
If you want to keep damage to a min, you would be better off to just use a .22 long rifle out to 100 yards.. Or a .22 Mag to 250 yards. The .17 Hornady rimfire mag shoots a little further than that ( about 300 yards accurately) with the right rifle and ammo...
If you cannot get closer than 300 yards, then you might want to become a better hunter first!
I have friends that shoot's Coyote's and Gray Foxes with a 20 ga shotgun.
If you want to keep damage to a min, you would be better off to just use a .22 long rifle out to 100 yards.. Or a .22 Mag to 250 yards. The .17 Hornady rimfire mag shoots a little further than that ( about 300 yards accurately) with the right rifle and ammo...
If you cannot get closer than 300 yards, then you might want to become a better hunter first!
I have friends that shoot's Coyote's and Gray Foxes with a 20 ga shotgun.
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redneck2
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Duh...should have been RL-22. I used Varget in my .223 AR.
Now, the .17 Fireball may be the ticket. Jury's still out on the .204, but I may just end up doing that.
Thanks
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MachIVshooter
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Neither one is a good cartridge if you are trying to preserve pelts. All the bullets in .17 and .20 cal are designed for explosive performance on small animals. I love my 700LVSF .17 Rem for varminting, but it would be one of my last choices for getting pelts. For that, I use a Ruger M77 in 6mm Rem with 90 gr. FMJ bullets.
The wonderful thing about the .17 Rem is you have almost zero Recoil. I can watch the critters get hit through the scope on full 16x magnification. Even with a .223, the gun usually moves enough to disrupt your vision with such high magnification. Downside to the .17 Rem? It is a major PITA to load. Especially with extruded powders (they sit sideways across the neck, very aggrivating). That, and it's really hard to hit anything if there's much more than a light breeze.
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