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1911 Ccw

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by HM2PAC, Dec 28, 2007.

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How do you CCW your 1911?

Poll closed Jan 27, 2008.
  1. CCW cocked and locked

    143 vote(s)
    94.1%
  2. CCW Hammer Down

    9 vote(s)
    5.9%
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  1. HM2PAC

    HM2PAC Member

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    How do you CCW a 1911?

    Cocked-and-Locked or hammer down?
     
  2. Black Majik

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    Cocked and locked is the ONLY way to go.
     
  3. longtooth

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    Agree 100%. JMB intended it.
     
  4. dasmi

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    If I carried a 1911, it would be cocked and locked. Dropping a 1911 hammer on a loaded chamber is a very, very bad idea.
     
  5. Mad Magyar

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    This way.....:)
     
  6. hexidismal

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    C&L of course. Hammer down doesn't do you much good when you need to draw and fire fast. Also, more than half of every AD/ND I've ever heard about with 1911s has come from a slip of the two hand decock on a loaded chamber.

    In fact theres a C&L 1911 on my hip right now, just as there is most of the time I'm dressed.
     
  7. lurch37

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    Condition 1
     
  8. Dobe

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    Is there any other way to carry?
     
  9. Schmidlin

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    Just want to ask a guestion, is it only becuase its got a hand safty or becuase thats just how you like to carry? Would you carry any other gun this way or only because of the 1911 design?

    I only ask cause im curious as ive never heard of this
     
  10. DMK

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    The 1911 is a single action only (SAO) handgun. If the hammer is down, you can't pull the trigger. You would need to cock the hammer with your thumb before you can bring the gun into action. That's very awkward to do, especially under stress. I doubt I could do it quickly enough.

    I do carry other guns with the hammer down, those that have double action triggers. But not 1911s.

    You only have two carry options with a 1911:

    1) Live round in chamber, hammer cocked, safety on. (Disengage grip safety by squeezing grip, thumb safety off, pull trigger to fire)

    2) Chamber empty, hammer down, safety off. (Disengage grip safety by squeezing grip, cycle slide with off hand, pull trigger to fire)
     
  11. Safety First

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    cocked and locked is the only way to carry a 1911...JMB designed it that way...but if you feel better having to rack the slide to put one in the snout when you need it to defend yourself...well then,rack the slide to chamber the round:neener:
     
  12. Schmidlin

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    I completely forgot all about that. Thanks for teh reminder, and man you guys are quick
     
  13. Rexster

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    For CCW, cocked and locked, a.k.a. Condition One. If the hammer is down, and the chamber empty, a.k.a. Condition Three, deployment is much slower, and requires two hands to accomplish in a hurry, unless one has mastered one of the more arcane alternative techniques, which are still slower than Condition One. The other carry method, Condition Two, hammer down over a loaded chamber, requires a moment of peril as the trigger is momentarily pulled to release the hammer, which is hopefully controlled by a thumb, and then guiding the hammer gently downward to its rest position. This is increasingly seen as being so unsafe that it is no longer worth it. If one wants to use Condition Two, IMHO, get something like a SIG P220, which has a decocking mechanism that safely lowers the hammer, with no need to touch the trigger, yet allows thumb-cocking. I find my SIG P229 to actually be fairly easy to thumb-cock, compared to a 1911, and seem to remember the same being true of the P220 I owned in the early 90's. Of course, the normal way to make a standard SIG go bang in a hurry is to fire the first shot in DA mode.
     
  14. weisse52

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    Cocked and Locked. It is the only safe way to carry.
     
  15. TAB

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    1911 cocked and locked is actually alot safer then say a glock. Think about it.

    If the trigger gets depressed on a glock it will go bang. On a 1911, you need to remove the safety, depress the grip safety and then pull the trigger for it to go bang.
     
  16. The Lone Haranguer

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    OK, who is the one "hammer down" responder? Show yourself. :D

    Condition One ("cocked and locked") is the only way to carry this design safely (a relative term when talking about something dangerous) yet instantly ready for action.
     
  17. Ala Dan

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    Cocked-Locked, And Ready To Rock~! ;)
     
  18. chieftain

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    If it ain't cocked and locked, you are just transporting it, not carrying it.

    Go figure.

    Fred
     
  19. Big Boomer

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    cocked, locked, and ready to rock :evil:
     
  20. Captain Bligh

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    Cocked and locked, the way John Moses Browning intended it.
     
  21. DMK

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    Obviously either someone who does not own a 1911, or someone who owns a Para Ord.
     
  22. Geno
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    Actually, I have read that JMB intended the 1911 to not have a manual safety, see the model 1910. The military insisted on the safety, and JMB complied. Wish I could locate a 1910. :(
     
  23. Cannonball888

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    You forgot the half-cock option
     
  24. TAB

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    Still to get to half cock... the hammer must fall. sooner or later the gun will go bang when doing that.

    not to mention that you can't apply the safety.
     
  25. 1911Tuner

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    Happy huntin'. There were only about 8 of'em built, and all but two...IIRC...had the thumb safety retrofitted.

    Meanwhile...Will a picture do?

    Whoops! Almost forgot...

    1910 Colt Photograph courtesy of Charles Clawson.

    1910.gif
     
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