JUst bought a new sw 1911pd saturday and decided to carry it today and said lets put a little oil on it before I go out it looks a little dry. Let me say how much of a pain in the A$$ it was to put the pistol back together. I would put the slide back together and the guide rod would spring out of place and prevent me from pulling the slide back to put the pin back in, and if I did what the manual said put the slide back minus the nut and spring I couldn't get the springholder thing back far enough into the slide to turn the nut what a pain. my Beretta is so easy. Nice gun other wise, can't wait to shoot it. also I got the black model. I know they are fired at the factory, but I noticed wear marks on the frame from the slide down to bare metal. For those of you who have the black model is this normal or is my gun off. Buying the gun the dfealer even mentioned how tight the gun is. It seems a little better with the oil, or should I bring it back to exthang it:banghead:
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Have you actually shot it yet? I would do that first. You will always get a bit of finish wear on your slide/frame rails, as there is considerable metal-to-metal contact. As for the reassembly, the full-length guide rods do complicate things a bit. After you do it a few times it will get easier, or you should be able to replace the guide rod with an original 1911-spec recoil spring, plug and guide.
no i havn't shot it yet thats what gets me if i put a couple hundred rounds through it ok but from one round from the factory, and i made sure this was a new model from the back room and not the one in the display case at the gun shop
In general, tight is GOOD. Go back to the dealer and have him show you the different ways to field strip the gun. BTW: you may want to pick up a bushing wrench.
Good Luck...
Joe
The 1911 takedown / re-assembly is difficult by today's autoloader standards. It takes a little practice, but once you get the hang of it, it becomes second nature.
Declaration Day said:
I suppose I lucked out because my first handgun was a 1911, so all other handguns since then have definately been easier. However I will agree that by today's autoloader standards it is indeed more difficult than a lot of others, however it definately gets much easier as you do it more. I haven't had the gun for a year but now that I have the hang on it, I can take it down and reassmble my 1911 pretty darn quick with minimal effort.
Walkalong said:
I mean it is difficult by modern autoloader standards. No, it's not rocket science, but compare it to the takedown procedure of a Glock, XD, or many other modern pistols.
If you just mean taking off the slide and getting to the barrel I still disagree. If you are talking about complete dissasembly I strongly disagree.
Show me people who routinely completly dissasemble their Glocks or XD's ( which are fairly easy) or their Sigs or HK's.
Good show Black Magic !
"Fieldstripping is problematic and difficult?"
He's got a guide rod.
The CZ 70 is much easier to field strip... though I expect that's true for most blowback autos, and not really a fair comparison to a full-power model.
He's got a guide rod.
The CZ 70 is much easier to field strip... though I expect that's true for most blowback autos, and not really a fair comparison to a full-power model.
Hehe- took me over 30 minutes to figure out how to field strip my 1911. The manual was pretty sparse in explanation. Indeed a little alien when my only experience have been Glocks, XDs, and Steyr.
Walkalong, while a 1911 is simple to field strip once you learn how, it is nowhere near as simple as the more modern auto loaders. My Walther P99 filed strips in 4 steps, and takes about 4 seconds. No 1911 is that easy or that quick.
Now, for complete dis-assembly, tinkering, kitchen table gunsmithing and general customizations, the 1911 reigns supreme.
Now, for complete dis-assembly, tinkering, kitchen table gunsmithing and general customizations, the 1911 reigns supreme.
I have to admit I'm spoiled. My first semi-auto was a Sig 228 which I can field strip for cleaning in less than 5 seconds and fully reassemble in about 8 seconds (takes 2-3 extra seconds to get the recoil spring compressed and back into place). I like shooting my 1911, but I hate taking it apart to clean.
By "carry", I sincerely hope you weren't talking about loading it up and CCW'ing it without ever having fired it. No way would I carry a pistol I've never fired.I've disassembled many 1911's, but I find the S&W* too be almost as tight as
my Les Baer Thunder Ranch 1911. A good bushing wrench helps, but you
still have too man handle that rascal~!
*Product Code: 108282
my Les Baer Thunder Ranch 1911. A good bushing wrench helps, but you
still have too man handle that rascal~!
*Product Code: 108282
Bet I can do a no guide rod 1911 in 4 seconds. Guide rod a bit slower.
Slide, barrel, bushing, springs, rod and plug. Betcha.
Besides, I thought we were talking about how easy, not how fast.
My XD is real easy too. So was the USP I had. So is my new Witness Match. They are all pretty easy to just field strip.
That is where most of them stop, although I have completely dissasembled my XD and it was relatively easy, although not quite as easy as the 1911. But, of course, if I had done an XD as many times as I have a 1911?
Yep, which is what I meant before. I was not talking about field stripping in my original post. I am so used to breaking them all the way down.
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