1911 Colt, My retirement gift to myself

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A few months back my friend that owns a pawn & gun shop got in a Colt 1911. I noticed it in his office one day and asked if it was for sale. He said yes but hadn’t decided what he wanted for it, but would let me know.
A few days later a asked about the gun and he said he had sold it. It seems that a good guy I know that also likes old Colt 1911s had offered a good sum of cash for it and my friend sold it to him.
Now I wasn’t mad at my friend, but I did let him know that I felt a little hurt that he never told me what he wanted for it before selling it. He told me that I had first dibs on the next one that came in the shop.
Fast forward to Monday June the 15th, which was two days ago, I walked into the shop and there stood the guy that had bought the 1911 that I had wanted. The first thing I said, out loud, was “ There’s the #&@*# that bought my 1911”. With a big smile his reply was, you should have just put cash on the table. We both laughed.
He then pointed to a gun case sitting on the counter and said it’s right there. I took it out and had a good look at it. He told me he had a buyer for it that was going to give him $2200 for it, but had to have dental work done and had to back out of the deal and that he was working out a deal with my buddy that owns the shop, to sell it back to him.
I talked to my buddy, who said if I wanted to work out a deal for the 1911, it was ok with him. My friend offered to sell it to me for $1475, but I felt that was just a tad to much.
I had my youngest son with me and we were on our was to go shooting. On the way home after we had fun at the range, I stopped in at the shop to see if my buddy had worked out a deal on the 1911.
He told me that my friend with the pistol had made a tread with him for a Diamond and he came out pretty good on the deal, and if I still wanted the 1911, I could have it for $1300 out the door. I told him I would be back in the morning with cash.
I went buy the shop yesterday morning and now I have my retirement gift to myself.
I haven’t looked it up yet, but I believe the SN# puts the manufacturing date around December of 1918.
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It also has an early magazine.
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Someone carved AL on the left grip panel.
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I’m very happy with the gun, and it looks great next to my other 1911 that was made in August of 1918.
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Reminds me of the "jamb-o-matics" we had in the small arms locker on board my first ship. Can you say "stove pipe" ;)

But seriously.... that's a really cool piece of history.

I read just the other day that when the US switched to the Beretta 92 (M9) in 1985, they hadn't booked a contract for the 1911 pistol since 1948. :eek:

Those old boys likely got some serious miles on them.
 
Congrats on your retirement and your acquisition---not to be nit-picky but the grip safeties appear to be different.
The 1911 had a longer grip safety then the 1911A1. The 1911 I bought a few years ago has a 1911A1 grip safety.
The 1911 was used up to 1942. They were being replaced with the 1911A1. It still took a few years to swap them all out and many 1911s were issued the state side troops throughout WWII.
 
Hey Gunny, happy retirement!

I like your style on acquiring the old 1911. I'm hoping you enjoy this heater to the max. I'm quite interested in how it handles ball ammo and the accuracy.
 
Had a bud back in the 1970's that had to have one and did not have the cash in hand. Nice guy that I am I loaned him most of the money with the deal being he paid me back AND if he ever decided to sell it he would offer it to me first at the price he paid.

I was a "C" stamp Commercial from before WWI.

Shot Hard Ball just fine. Nice gun.

Fast forward a couple of years and I am on the local range and the guy's brother pulls out a 1911 that had a dove tailed front sight, widdden rear dove tail for a matching rear sight, extended safety and slide release, short trigger with over travel screw and large beavertail grip safety and Pacmyer's

Yes it was "my" pistol. It had been sold to baby brother at a profit ( cash is actually thicker than blood in some families) and brother had gone ape stuff "fixing up" the old pistol. He also "experimented" with reloading and so throated the original barrel with a Dremel tool and proceeded to load up some 254 grain SWC and (no big shock) managed to crack the frame.

Not sure why I did not have a stroke at the time.

oh , BTW The DoD did let contracts for parts after 1948. Slides and Barrels and recoil springs for sure and I suspect others as well.

About 1964 or 65 they started buying replacement recoil springs. These caused most of the issues with the 1911A1 in a way that started showing up after the manual and tech manuals that came out in the early 1970s. The original recoil springs had one end that was "closed" and a tight fit over the recoil spring guide and one end that was "open" that went in the recoil guide plug. The open end of the wire was to be screwed into the punched divot in the plug.

The new spring was open on both ends.

The older manuals made it clear that the closed end went in the plug and the open end went around the guide.

New manuals said nothing about spring orientation.

When the manuals changed folks put the old style springs (likely some of the CMP guns still have them) in "backwards"

The geometry of the new spring's open ends do not quite match the old spring single open end. When the old springs go in backwards the spring may kink and prevent the slide from traveling fully to the rear and causes "stove Pipes" and failure to eject.

When I took over an Arms room in 1982 there were seven of nine "red Tagged" 1911A1s that when I examined them had the old style spring in backwards and all were red tagged fail to eject. Reversing the spring so the tight end was on the guide "cured" them all. Though one got reported locking back at almost every shot. A Staff Major (Regimental S3) that made the complaint about his pistol was using the ancient "teacup hold" and every shot his left thumb pushed up the slide stop and it did what it was told. It made him angry when I demonstrated that the issue was with the shooter and not the gun. Did I mention he was my Senior Rater?

First thing I check when looking at a GI 1911a1 that has issues is whether it has an old spring and then is it installed correctly.

-kBob
 
You have exquisite taste in firearms, Sir ! Is that grip safety off of an A1 ? WHO CARES!!!

Gunny, if you ever get up my way, now that you are retired, a trip to the Rock Island Arsenal Museum might be well worth the time and effort. There is no admission and we have 1225 guns on display, many of which I have posted. The museum is closed at this time but it won't stay that way forever.
 
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