1911 Forceful Magazine ejector

[snakebite129]

Is there such a thing on the market or if anyone had experienced a mag. ejector that doesn't just slide the mag out by an inch, but will provide enough force to have it come all the way out??

It would be for a RIA compact 1911. or if someone has seen one for a full size also.

 

[marlin.357]

What "ejects" the magazine is the magazine spring itself, and then gravity should take over. If not, then the mags could be damaged (bulged) causing them to drag, or the mag well might be a little tight.

Or I might not understand what you are looking for....

 

[rondog]

Yeah, the mag spring is compressed by the bottom of the slide. When you press the mag release, that spring compression is what pops the mag out. It's even stronger with rounds in the mag.

If the mag doesn't fall right out, then the mag may be out of spec, damaged (bent/tweaked), or something in the mag well is interfering. It's very common for the grip screws to extend a tad too far into the mag well and drag on the magazines, especially if you've changed the grips or screws.

 

[BullfrogKen]

Rather than grip screws, it's more likely that there's a burr or a tight spot on the trigger bow. Look at your magazines for drag lines. Burrs can be removed with a small file. If the sides/one side of the bow has been collapsed a bit, there are tools to even it back out. I'd simply replace the trigger first, though.


Another option is some guys will install brass base pads on their magazines. The weight helps gravity pull the magazine out quicker. I've never used the product, but here's one such example.

Brass Base Pads for 1911 Magazines

 

[BullfrogKen]

To expand on this a bit.

What magazines are you using? Some are a bit thicker than others.


If you know how to detail disassemble your 1911, it'll make it easier to diagnose your problem. Try taking the gun completely apart, and reassembling the magazine release without the trigger in place. If the magazine ejects freely, you know it's dragging on the trigger bow. Why is a different question.

It could be a burr or a high side somewhere inside the trigger bow. It could also be an oversized mag body. Do you have access to magazines made by different manufacturers? That will help you determine what needs replaced.


If you're not comfortable disassembling your 1911, get this -

"Wilson Combat 1911 Auto Maintenance Manual" Book by Bill Wilson

At under $10.00, it's a must for any 1911 owner.

 

[rcmodel]

The mag should eject out from it's own weight plus follower spring pressure.

As already stated:
Look for long grip screws sticking through into the mag well and rubbing on the mag.
Thats very common with replacement grips, and even factory out of spec screws or grips.

If not that, then it might be the trigger bow rubbing, but that isn't as common as long screws.

If it isn't that, your mags or frame are out of spec.

rc

 

[DPris]

And, keep the mag release button depressed while the mag's dropping out.
Denis

 

[ElrodCod]

It could be a bad magazine, grip screw bushings protruding into the mag well, or the trigger bow bent slightly into the mag well.

 

[Drail]

This can also be caused by a magazine release that when depressed goes into the frame so far that it presses on the magazine. With the slide off of the frame and no mag in the well look up into it and depress the mag release as far as it will go and see if it is protruding into the left side of the well. When the mag release is depressed with a mag in the well there should be no drag whatsoever on the mag as it comes out regardles off how hard you press in on the mag release. I have used heavy weighted base pads in competition and they do get the mag started coming out a little quicker but gravity is what actually gets it out of the well.

 

[snakebite129]

thank you for all your responses, to be clearer, I'm simply looking for a heavier spring or device or method that will make the empty mag come out faster/with more force.

thank you once again

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

For the magazine to do what you're describing would require some kind of external "assist spring," i.e., a coiled mousetrap type or a leaf spring mounted on the magazine and bearing against the bottom of the magazine well or mainspring housing. The Browning Hi-Power in .40 caliber actually does have a mousetrap spring. To adapt one to an existing 1911 magazine and/or gun will take some ingenuity, but is conceivable. But, the fact that no one has bothered to try it should tell you something.

 

[DPris]

Nothing currently available to increase forceful ejection of a 1911 magazine that I'm aware of.
Denis

 

[BullfrogKen]

If that's all you want try those brass weights.

 

[White Horseradish]

I have a 1911 that had a little trouble with some magazines. Turned out that there was a slight burr on the frame and that made magazines come out slowly. A little filing and they shoot right out now.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Wilson Combat has steel floorplates for the #47 series (or complete mags with such floorplates) that add a little weight to the bottom.

 

[ElrodCod]

If that's all you want try those brass weights.

When Galileo tried that he concluded that the heavy magazine didn't fall any faster than the light one. (in a free fall)

edited to add:
Newton's second law of motion applies here as well. Given that the force pushing the magazine out of the magwell is the same for both the light and heavy magazines then the heavy magzine's rate of acceleration will be less than that of the lighter magazine.

 

[Sam1911]

When Galileo tried that he concluded that the heavy magazine didn't fall any faster than the light one. (in a free fall)

Of course, but we really aren't so concerned about what happens to the mags once they start falling. I think we have all seen that most mags "eject" themselves with plenty of authority from a gun that's set up properly.

On the other hand, if there are various slight reasons why the mags are hanging or a little tight and they drag a bit or don't like to get moving, a bit more weight might help.

A band-aid fix, though. I'd rather figure out what's holding them up and take a file or some emery paper to it.

 

[marlin.357]

I'm simply looking for a heavier spring or device or method that will make the empty mag come out faster/with more force.

No offense intended, just curious, but I guess I'm gonna have to be the one to ask: WHY?

 

[bigfatdave]

I'm simply looking for a heavier spring or device or method that will make the empty mag come out faster/with more force.

It would have to travel most of the length of the magazine, store somewhere in the gun or on every mag, and re-compress when inserting magazines. Not going to fit in the frame of a officer's size 1911.

Now, I have an Armscor compact also (mine is a Citadel) and the magazines it came with are pretty much junk. Wilson mags feed best, and most drop free (I have a couple that don't always dro free, they became range mags)
Chip McCormick mags, however, drop out like a greased hamster, I have two and they're my favorite range magazines partly because of that feature.

I'm going to look for burrs in there next time I detail strip, but I'm taking a guess that your RIA's mags don't drop because they're the mags out of the RIA box more than anything. Nothing that fits in the frame of a budget compact 1911 is going to give you better magazine ejection than proper clearance between internals and the mag. Unless you want to install a little model rocket motor in place of the follower and activate it with the mag-catch button, I suppose, but you'll burn your hand and give up capacity/reliability in your mags to stick that in there.

 

[bigflash1]

And then of course, you would have to add force to wind your mouse trap up...

Let gravity do the work

 

[BullfrogKen]

but I guess I'm gonna have to be the one to ask: WHY?

Because his mags aren't dropping free like they're supposed to. See post #1.

When Galileo tried that he concluded that the heavy magazine didn't fall any faster than the light one. (in a free fall)

My understanding from what Mr. Snakebite described was that the magazines weren't falling at all. Several theories were offered, and solutions provided. He doesn't want to try to solve what's binding, or remove any possible burr dragging on the mag. As Sam1911 mentioned, a weighted mag is a band-aid to a real fix. However for the unwilling or unadventurous, it usually resolves a magazine that won't drop free under it's own weight.

 

[ElrodCod]

My understanding from what Mr. Snakebite described was that the magazines weren't falling at all.

That's not what I understood him to say.

thank you for all your responses, to be clearer, I'm simply looking for a heavier spring or device or method that will make the empty mag come out faster/with more force.

 

[BullfrogKen]

Again, see post #1.

Is there such a thing on the market or if anyone had experienced a mag. ejector that doesn't just slide the mag out by an inch, but will provide enough force to have it come all the way out??

Sure sounds to me like he's describing a magazine that isn't ejecting at all.

 

[marlin.357]

Please read his first post AGAIN! And his Second post (#10). Doesn't say they aren't dropping free, says he wants to "make the empty mag come out faster/with more force". Now maybe they aren't dropping free, but he didn't say that.... I'm just asking WHY to find out IF that IS his issue, or if he just wants them to squirt out "faster/with more force" for whatever reason.

But, whatever his reason, I guess it's been beat to death by now.....

 

[Sam1911]

But, whatever his reason, I guess it's been beat to death by now....

Indeed. The answer is that you might get some benefit overall by adding a weighted mag base, but the best fix is to eliminate bad mags, and burrs or tight spots inside the mag well.

There is no "add-on" device that kicks your mags out ... nor would there seem to be much need of one.