1911 Mags

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Had issues with the Checkmate mag today. Several jams due to the mag. The next round to be stripped off would walk into the feedramp due to recoil inertia.

Not happy. I'll try the other Checkmate next range trip to see if this problem repeats.
 
I just recieved a couple new Checkmates, SS, 8 round, with the "patented hybrid" follower. .
I have a couple of 7 rounders and a couple of 8 rounders, but not with the "hybrid" followers. They have the "hybrid" feed lips and a dimpled follower. They run great. Some guns don't seem to like anyones 8 rounders though.

Check-Mate - CM45-7-S-H & CM45-8-S-H

I don't see the CM45-8-S-H on their site now.

The CM45-7-S-GI or real Colt mags with the "controlled feed" mag lips might be the most reliable magazines on earth. I have one somewhat finicky 1911, that hates 8 rounders (anyones) and some 7 rounders with some bullet styles. An old Colt mag I have with the controlled feed lips with make it run like a sewing machine with anything.
 
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The CM45-7-S-GI or real Colt mags with the "controlled feed" mag lips might be the most reliable magazines on earth.
They are, but folks just keep on buying Wilsons and CMCs and such anyway. Must be a marketing thing. :)
 
schmeky said:
Had issues with the Checkmate mag today. Several jams due to the mag. The next round to be stripped off would walk into the feedramp due to recoil inertia.

Not happy. I'll try the other Checkmate next range trip to see if this problem repeats.

Thanks schmeky, I appreciate the honest non-glowing report.

For the time being I'm going to continue to stick to the original spec old school 7rd flush mags that I've always used.

I have tried Wilsons 10rd mags, (10rd version of 47D's) but the plastic followers with smooth top left me a bit nervous. Especially since pieces broke off of 75% of them after the first outing. I had no malfunctions, but the mags just didn't inspire my confidence, and I ditched them quickly. The springs seemed too weak as well.

They must have been the "post Wolff spring" Wilsons that people don't like.

I've never been crazy about polymer basepads either.
 
Wilsons. Never had a magazine issue with them and feel confident trusting my life to them.
 
Something may have been lost in Checkmates translation of this concept.
Sounds like a follower and spring issue. I use standard USGI 7rd followers and Wolff springs.
 
I have 2 new Colt factory 8 round mags on the way for comparison testing. I have had very good service from the Wilson 47D's and from the CMC mags personally.

Seems like after nearly 100 years of 1911's, magazines would be a non-issue.
 
Seems like after nearly 100 years of 1911's, magazines would be a non-issue.
If the design was stable, it would be. The problem is that so many people make so many different 1911 designs, in so many varying degrees of fidelity to original spec*, that it creates a LOT of confusion about what works well.

Take a milspec (both in design and execution) 1911 and a milspec (both in design and execution) 1911 magazine, and things will msot likely be just fine. The problems come when you start changing variables, either intentionally through design or unintentionally due to sloppy manufacture. A lot of 1911s on the market today are a real hodgepodge of dubious "features" and questionable execution. The same can be said of the magazines. Most of the time stuff works acceptably well, but when you start stacking variances from spec, you will eventually start to induce malfunctions. The magazine is usually blamed for this when it is a feed error, because changing the magzine can fix the error, so it must be the mag, right? Wrong. You may have just switched to a mag that is further out of spec, or out of spec in a different way, but works well with an out of spec gun.

There's not too much wrong with running an out-of-spec gun with an out-of-spec magazine as long as it works. The problems are in diagnosing the errors and figuring out how to fix them, and the unintended consequences that can show up later as parts wear oddly.

Mike

* Throughout this, when I say "spec" or "milspec", I'm referring to the original design, as given from on high by the Archangel Michael to the prophet J. Moses Browning. I'm not a flaming partisan that demands that everyone's 1911 be as JMB originally intended, but you have to admit the old plain jane guns usually work. Start fiddling, and the reliability issues are on you.
 
I've heard both good and bad about those mags. Ammoman has had those things forever. Might as well just order some from Check-Mate yourself because who knows the true history on those mags.
 
A little while back, I tried writing Checkmate to do a local group buy. Never heard back from 'em.

I called them, gave my CC number over the phone and had magazines within a week. Hybrid 8 round SS with dimple and wow, no problems!
 
schmeky, did you have issues with only one mag? Do you think the spring tension seemed weak? Or do you think it might be due to the feed lips?
 
I'd also be curious whay ammo was being used - I wonder if perhaps it's undersized in length....
 
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