1911 or polymer 45?

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I am a Ruger man and I have the Ruger P345 and SR1911. They both get carried but the 345 gets carried more.
 
I don't know why Colts custom shop charges around 800 bucks to do these things (among others that truly aren't necessary like checkering) if it's all such a waste.
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Because noobs read "that a production assembly line 1911 will require reliability work to be a carry gun" on the net and will pay it.

It boils down to this... The OP asked and I answered. You disagree. Fine. You trust your life to your 1911 and I'll trust my life to mine, but bickering with a stranger on the Internet is not worth the time.
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not trying to bicker you've already made up your mind, but maybe if the OP gets a gun that's not quite right cause the QA inspector was fighting with the wife on the phone and didn't see the burr on the breach face, He'll give Colt or SA a call so they'll send a guy in a brown truck to get it and within a couple weeks the guy in the brown truck will bring it back. Instead of foolishly paying $200 to a local gunsmith that if he's any good and has a backlog will probably take at least twice as long. Or worse the LG is arguing with the wife on the phone and $&^%%* up your gun.
Of course you'd probably just blame the design.:banghead:
 
Preferred and understood platform. Preferred and understood by the user. I wouldn't have the first clue as to how to run a BAR but I do understand an AR. Same same.
 
mavracer said:
Because noobs read "that a production assembly line 1911 will require reliability work to be a carry gun" on the net and will pay it.



not trying to bicker you've already made up your mind, but maybe if the OP gets a gun that's not quite right cause the QA inspector was fighting with the wife on the phone and didn't see the burr on the breach face, He'll give Colt or SA a call so they'll send a guy in a brown truck to get it and within a couple weeks the guy in the brown truck will bring it back. Instead of foolishly paying $200 to a local gunsmith that if he's any good and has a backlog will probably take at least twice as long. Or worse the LG is arguing with the wife on the phone and $&^%%* up your gun.
Of course you'd probably just blame the design.:banghead:
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Excellent points and in my opinion, this is where the problem comes from. Every once in a while, one of these threads pops up and someone offers their "experience" based on next to nothing. They don't give facts or any other supporting data for their ridiculous claims, and someone new to the 1911 comes by and reads it. Now you have misinformation being spread for no good reason.

Now, to keep on track, to the OP. Everyone should own a 1911, just don't limit yourself to the RIA. There are several other 1911s out there that will run perfectly fine and be a blast to shoot. What did you think of the ATI you saw? Mine has been flawless.
 
Bought a Kimber Custom Stainless II and I'm loving it! No failures as of yet except for 1 dud round, I have fired around 400-450 rounds so far(kinda hard to keep count it's so much fun to shoot) all I need now are some more magazines/ammo and some night sights!
 
I look at the higher-end 1911s as a Ferrari and the Glock as a Mustang/Camaro. Both will get you where you're going, but they're very different animals.
 
Glocks are the Ford Taurus daily drivers of the world. A 1911 can be had from the factory as anything from a Pinto to a Pagani and lumping them all together under one banner is no different than claiming Glocks, Hi Points and Diamondbacks are all "the same gun".

I think it's sad that some people find Glock to be the pinnacle of pleasurable shooting or accuracy. I think the same of someone who has never spent time with a well tuned revolver but I also understand that we don't all have the same likes and dislikes. Some kids will inherit magnificent firearm collections while others will get a bag of those golf frisbees. Whose to say which will have more fun.
 
I've found my Glock 21 to be incredibly accurate and 100% reliable. The only jam was a misshapen round of UMC, and this includes all the shots fired by my buddies as well. And one of 'em has that uncanny ability to jam near anything.

I think of this Glock like a cross between a Honda and a Mustang. It's easy to work on, yourself, but chances are you won't have to.

I've seen many a post that Glocks are only good in 9mm, but not 40/45. I sorta agree there's something about the 40's. But Glocks 20/21 29/30 are 100% awesome in my book.
 
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Just to clarify, I also bought a used glock 17 with still functioning night sights the day after I bought the kimber and I have put about 800 rounds down range with it! A G21/sf is certainly in my futurenif I can save up the money before the next election/awb!
 
FWIW, I tried out an SA 1911A1 full size today for the first time for CCW. IWB, under jeans and a sweatshirt. Comfortable as heck, don't know why I hadn't carried a 1911 years ago.

Yes, it is longer than my usual carry pieces (Sig 228/229), but it slim and frankly I hardly noticed carrying it - felt like it melted to my side. No problems sitting down at all, even driving around for several hours today. I was a lot less conscious that I was toting a carry piece around, compared to my Sigs. Any I'm not tall or lanky guy at all.

My other .45 carry piece is a Sig p220 Carry. Sig's idea of compactness is a bit bigger than most, but it is still slimmer than the G 21. Capacity is the trade off, of course. I know the OP is not considering Sigs, but I thought I'd toss that out there for consideration.
 
I had looked at sigs and I even know a guy that has a P250 midsize 9mm, they are not bad I just preferred to go with something else. I am however seriously eyeballing their 1911's. I have carried my 1911 several times since buying it and I find it to be VERY comfortable and nowhere near as heavy and unwieldy as some claim. I carry mine in a blackhawk owb paddle holster with serpa II lock. Living in Alabama I don't have to worry about printing and we are also an open carry state.
 
Which one will you shoot better? With practice you can fire a 1911 just as fast as a Glock. I shot a G17 in the academy and always shot 2" to the left. The first time I shot my 1911 I was dead on, shot after shot. I trust the 1911 because it is reliable and I am a lot more accurate with it.
 
I agree that the 1911 is generally more accurate for most people especially their first time, my wife is proof of that. However, I will be waiting until I get a rock island or another good price on a used gun so IF I have to use it and the cops confiscate it, I won't be out a grand.
 
My most recent purchase was a full size S&W M&P45 and I have been very impressed with it's reliability and accuracy.
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An M&P in .45ACP was involved in a fairly recent tragic event in my area. I wondered for months why the shooter had been able to control his gun during rapid fire (I heard the shots), with limited shooting experience, and with small lady-like wrists. Once I fired an M&P, I understood how easily that particular weapon can be used in a hurry. They are very ergonomic, reliable, and accurate. Tend to have good triggers too.

But I prefer a 1911.
 
Coltdriver said:
. I don't own any 1911's now. They are an ancient battery of arms. I don't care what anyone says, carrying one cocked and locked and having to snick off a safety to shoot one is very out of date. Carrying one cocked and locked without the safety on is insanity.

A Glock is a pull, point and shoot weapon with multiple safeties between the shooter and it.
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Yeah, about that... So out of date you need special hostlers to ensure you don't shoot yourself. :scrutiny:
 
Bam, welcome to the community, and congratulations on your selection, you made a fine one. I own both a g21, and a 1911, and either are fine choices. The 1911 has a better trigger because it's metal framed, single action only with no cocking or stroknig going on, it's pre-cocked and you just drop a metal sear with a metal trigger bar. Can you say, "crisp". The g21 has advantages as well though. No safety lever to train around. They do in fact feed more reliably, this is because plastic flexes way more than steel so when a bad feed is about to happen in the 1911 it'll have to be tuned to perfection. With the glock, the frame just flexes a little, and viola, feeding time. And of course, there are capacity issues for war guns. I say war guns not carry guns, because I've been concealed carrying for years now and have never discharged unless at a range practising. (thank our GOD, knock on wood......) and in the average street encounter 6 to 8 rounds is plenty, plenty.
If you are concernes as many others of us are about economic factors or border issues leading to civil unrest, etc etc then you're not talking about a defensive single person carry gun, now you're talking a possible neighborhood multi-person cooperative scenario, and now you're talking a "war gun" with higher capacities.
Enjoy the 1911 for now, but buy both, and let us pray you never need either. Be safe and welcome.
 
Ok.. Go poly in Glock or XD/ XDm or similar and you dont have to worry about banging up a nice 1911... 1911's are nice, been around for a long time, but the poly choices are better for carry guns IMO. If you have to use it, god forbid. Your Nice custom 1911 will be held in Evidence for a while, possibly a long while. SO.. IMO, no reason to carry a expensive gun everyday all day, consider your carry gun a "throw away gun" if you had to ever use it is a SD situation.
Another arguement, your 1911 will eventually get holster wear, possibly grips a little banged up from daily carrying, (unless you only carry in front of the computer on THE HIGH ROAD), :D and I certainly wouldnt want that happening to my nice custom Kimber or whatever your flavor is.
Reguards.... B.B.
 
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