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1911 over rated

Is the 1911 that great?

  • strongly agree

    Votes: 305 47.1%

  • agreed

    Votes: 97 15.0%

  • some what agree

    Votes: 88 13.6%

  • disagree

    Votes: 157 24.3%
  • Total voters
    647
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If the Colt 1911 45acp is over rated, I guess that you could also say that the Stars and Stripes, apple pie and Mom are over rated too. :eek:

The JMB designed Colt M1911 in 45acp is the Mother of all semi-auto 'hand' Guns.

There are many excellent handguns in this world, I've owned a bunch, but they all are in the 1911's very long shadow.

In 100 years, maybe no one will remember the XD or Glock, but I'll bet my bottom dollar that the M1911 will still be on the lips of those who know handguns.
 
Wow! I disagree as strongly as one possibly could.

The 1911 has the most superb trigger out there. Ergonomically, there is no comparison for me between the 1911 and any other pistol. Next, the ability to carry cocked and locked is something I truly like. AND a well built 1911 will be as reliable as any gun could be.

BUT, the main reason I like it so much is because I shoot it better than I shoot other guns. Heck, I can shoot just as well with a 1911 as I can with a 22. Now, I don't claim to be an excellant shot or anything, far from it. Even more reason for me to shoot the gun I shoot best. If I find something else that shoots better in my hand, I will change my opinion.

By the way, if the 1911 is so overrated, why do you think so many high level IDPA shooters use 1911-based guns?
 
btw the title of this thread is "1911 overated?" but the poll asks "is the 1911 really that great". i agreed that is is overated but the poll put me down for agreeing the 1911 is great..
 
my take on this would be how many glock's, etc. are still around or being made/copied in 100 years...:)
 
Most people who have a problem limp wristing do not like 1911's. It is too heavy, too powerful and I can not shoot it accurately, it keeps stovepiping are the common whines. A 1911 is not something you have to like, but you do have to love' em. The original design ,not tweaked as issued, served me well in the Corps. And as stated above, special Marine Units canned the Berreta and went back to Old Faithfull. Steel not a plastic wonder gun. That should say alot for its relevance.

Now haven't we got anything better to do than revive the same old debate?
Guess not that is why I am here:D
 
I have to come down on the side of the 1911. Durable, reliable, accurate, and good looking to boot. I like my guns to last a LONG time. I like to imagine my grandchildren, (if I ever have any,) shooting my guns. If "maintainace free" is important to you, a plastic gun may be a better choice, but I doubt if any polymer guns will outlast a well cared for 1911.
Marty
 
In my personal experience, 1911s are as reliable as any other platform and I shoot them better that anything else I have tried. I have owned handguns from every major manufacturer and have found nothing that will replace the 1911 as my go-to gun. Other people may choose a different design that fits them better. Arguing over which is better is retarded. Just get whatever is best for you and stop trolling.
 
two tone said:
btw the title of this thread is "1911 overated?" but the poll asks "is the 1911 really that great". i agreed that is is overated but the poll put me down for agreeing the 1911 is great..
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I strongly agree somewhat. ;)

True, the poll is poorly worded. I'm not sure how to answer a poll about a question. I strongly agree that "Is the 1911 really that great?" is indeed a question.

The poll needs a statement that we can agree with or disagree with, not a question.
 
You wouldn't keep seeing threads like this, if the 1911A1 were truely over rated.

Dobe

The 1911 - 100 years and going strong.
 
A good 1911 is a thing of unparalleled beauty, whether it's a no-frills milspec or tricked-out racegun. Overrated? Not a chance. I know it has its share of detractors, but I tend to agree with those who say the modern 1911s' problems are due to the manufacturers getting away from the original design. As far as someone mentioning they owned something like a Bryco, Davis or some other potmetal poodle-popper and basically saying it needed less tuning or tweaking to run right than a 1911, all I can do is just...:barf: I would think as opposed to "tuning" or "tweaking" a Bryco, you'd be better served to melt it down and make a fork or a butter knife out of it. Just my humble opinion, of course, but the 1911 bashing is long past tiresome.
 
The main reason I shoot the Glock is because of the overrated 1911. The 1911 is overated because:

1. After thousands of dollars worth of quality gunsmithing work by American Handgunner Club 100 gunsmiths, with every part of the gun tuned or adjusted for maximum reliability, 1911s, in my experience, will still jam, FTF or FTE, never in practice and always during a match . You can take a Glock out of the box, check the bore for grease or obstructions, and take it out and shoot it, and it will run.

2. Glocks have no grip screw bushings or grip screws to come loose. Most new 1911s, in my experience, will have at least one grip screw bushing come loose when you take the grips off the first time, and it is usually attached to the grip screw itself, and it screws out of the frame.

3. A stock Glock does not hurt your hand and draw blood when you shoot it, unlike a 1911A1 with the stock hammer and the stock grip safety (YMMV, but it does it to me).

4. A stock Glock does not have to have aftermarket expensive magazines to function properly (ie Wilson's). IME the magazine that comes with most 1911s was made by the lowest bidder with soft metal bodies and feed lips. You do not have to "tune" the magazines or buy aftermarket magazines for a Glock.

5. The number one PITA with a 1911, the extractor. Most 1911s out of the box will have to have their extractor replaced with a better quality unit to maintain extractor tension. The Glock extractor is fine out of the box.

6. Glocks do not have plunger tubes that will come off of the frame. I once had a Series One Kimber, and during shooting the plunger tube came off. A gunsmith charged me 50 DOLLARS to replace that plunger tube (at that time about a six dollar part that took two minutes to install). That is the main incident that attracted me to the Glock. No plunger tube.

YMMV, but these are the main things that make the 1911 overrated. Too much money for not enough gun.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr
 
Cuper said ones This is the greatest and best out there!!! Then he said But now they are making good models to.!!! refering to other makers, I think this is an over statement!!!!!!:
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Umm...hmm...OK. :scrutiny:

By "Cuper" can I/we assume you mean Col. Cooper? (RIP sir!)

Look, one can make all sorts of arguments, sensible and, well...otherwise, against the 1911 and in favor of other handguns. That's really OK. I'm not how "over-rated" really applies though. The 1911, like most firearms, has its fans and its detractors.

Personally, I love the 1911. It fits my hand well, has amazing ergonomics even for this lefty, it has an amazing trigger, and best of all, it goes bang every time I pull the trigger.


B.
 
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I don't own a 1911, but the first time I shot one I shot it better than almost any handgun I'd ever touched. A Mil-spec 1911 is a winning combination of accuracy, reliability, and concealability, and is a great manstopper. It is the measure by which all other semi-auto handguns are judged.
You might prefer other handguns for different reasons. But I don't know of any handgun that is better.
 
A personal counterpoint to my experience with 1911s would be my experience with my Glocks. While they too went bang every time I pulled the trigger, they never fit my hand well, had poor ergonomics in their controls, and the triggers were, IMO, horrific.


But as always, YMMV.
My solution was to stick to the handguns I liked.


Cheers,
B.
 
The Internet is an amazing place. Where else could someone vent his feelings about an inaminate object so forcefully?

I like (ain't saying love) 1911s, and generally wouldn't own a Glock unless it was free. But past that, I don't understand how anyone can care.
 
It's not the most utilitarian pistol, it's more like a peice of art. I don't think of art so much as paintings but objects that just look right. A certain car or truck, a horse, a beautiful woman, a well crafted knife or almost anything. It's just a great design.

I think maybe it has "divine proportion" that apeal to me on a subconcious level or something. Looking down at the top of the slide, at the elegant simplicity, the curves and the slenderness, it just looks right. Then when you hold it, its so heavy and cold, it feels like a real machine. I always thought of the 1911 as the American samurai sword.
 
If you love Glocks, power to you.
If you love 1911s, power to you.
Whatever gun you love, power to you.

But anyone who has nothing better to do than criticize someone else's choice of guns is not worth my time to try to enlighten.
 
I have never traded or sold one of my 45s. I just keep adding. And they all seem to have a special meaning to me.

I have traded and sold off every plastic gun I have ever owned after the new and the sales pitch wore off. They were just guns. Nothing special about any of them.

One thing the plastic gunners should consider is that the plastic guns are cheaper to manufacture. Hence the industry is really trying to push the whole plastic gun thing.


But Im with gc70 on this. More power to you regardless of what type of gun you like.
 
You guys notice that the only people that are replying are the ones disagreeing that the 1911s are overated and giving their reasons. The ones that agree the 1911 platform is overrated are hiding behind the polls without fessing up who feels this way... or why...


Where's the poll option for "STRONGLY DISAGREE?"

...biased poll....
 
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