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1911 shoots dead on and Glocks shoot to the Left?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by Johnny Lightning, May 15, 2012.

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  1. Johnny Lightning

    Johnny Lightning Member

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    I was an indoor range today and got a chance to shoot a rental Kimber 1911 target along w/ my glock 26. I first shot my glock and was shooting consistently to the left. I then shot the kimber and was dead on. This got me thinking since I also own a G17 that consistently shot left till I moved the sights and I own a springfield loaded that I shoot dead on. Is there something I should adjust in my grip or is it just the fact that the grip is fatter on the glocks and therefore I hold it differently which forces me to shoot left?
     
  2. Old Shooter

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    Glocks were designed in Austria, isn't that a left-leaning country?
     
  3. hentown

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    Common malady for new Glock shooters. Work on grip and trigger control. Don't use much finger on the trigger.
     
  4. SigMic

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    As Hentown said, grip and trigger.

    It's much easier to shoot a 1911 well than it is most other firearms, due to light, creepfree triggers and heavier weight.
     
  5. hogshead

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    Do you shoot right handed ?
     
  6. 9mmepiphany

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    Hard to say until we've seen the grip you're using...but it does sound like your grip.

    The 1911's shorter trigger masks a lot of flaws in technique
     
  7. the duck of death

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    Learn how to do a trigger job. My Glocks have 2lb triggers. They DO NOT shoot to the left.;)
     
  8. jfrey

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    Very common situation. I did the same when I got my G19. Got new set of sights on the Glock and ran a couple thousand rounds through it and things are much improved. The funny thing is: those who have limited shooting experience don't seem to have this problem very much. Those of us who have shot the 1911 for years seem to have the most problem. It's like trying to drive a tank like a Ferrari. They can get to the same place but in very different handling modes.
     
  9. Ex

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    I pushed the sight on my G22 just a smidge. Now it goes exactly where I want it to.

    G20 and G29 were fine.
     
  10. Texan Scott

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    My G22 always shot to the right *if I wasn't careful about grip*. I have very large, but fairly thin, hands. I can wrap my fingers all the way around a glock and close the heel of my thumb over the tips of my fingers, but the inside of my palm doesn't make very solid contact with the flat right-hand side of the grip. If I grab one quickly, I tend to do just that - grab up on it. As a result, when I straighten my arm and wrist, the gun is rotated slightly in my grip. It's not a problem of the gun, it's a problem of the shooter (in my case, at least). The Hogue wrap-around rubber things help me slightly, but training through the problem is the only real, permanent solution. I sold mine last time I moved overseas, and never bothered to reaqcuire one, knowing that the grips present me with difficulty.
    I'd suggest two things: a) evaluate your grip on the thing, and b) consider having a friend or two shoot it. If they don't notice it shooting to the left, it's not likely the gun, just you. If it IS the gun, THEN think about drifting the sights a bit.
     
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    Much better trigger on that 1911...........glock triggers are their safety feature.....tough and tougher.
     
  12. otasan56

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    Well

    You may have to move your rear sight to the right a little to change the point of impact.
     
  13. Johnny Lightning

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    I shoot right handed and shoot all my guns spot on w/ out adjusting the sights except my glocks. I have a .357 revolver, .22 auto, lcp, 1911, and the 2 glocks. I think the next time i am at the indoor range i will rent an m&p 9mm and see if my accuracy improves w/ a diff. Striker fired polymer pistol.
     
  14. Johnny Lightning

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    Do any of the aftermarket glock triggers have almost no take-up and a crisp trigger like a 1911? Prob not but i had to ask.
     
  15. Andrew Wyatt

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    You haven't shot a 1911 enough to flinch yet.

    as long as the sights are zeroed properly, almost all pistol shooting problems involve trigger control.

    do the glock sights shoot dead on from a ransom rest?
     
  16. The Lone Haranguer

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    Wrap more finger around the Glock's trigger.
     
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    Check the Glock from a rest, and ideally with more than one shooter. If it consistently hits left, then drift the rear sights to compensate.

    If it's only shooting left freehand, or only for you, then its trigger control and/or grip. I'd personally say to get some snap caps do do dryfire practice in that case. Practice acquiring targets (I use posters on the wall) and snapping on them, taking note not to flinch or jerk the trigger. Smooth, consistent pull that doesn't disrupt the muzzle.
     
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    1911 SA triggers are more forgiving. Glocks are harder to shoot well. Pushing left is common for a righty and the reverse for lefties. Ergonomics matter, too. No way around it.
     
  19. NYH1

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    Move the rear sight to the right until it shoots where you want/need it to shoot and be done with it. I've have to make sight adjustments on most of the firearms I've owned. No biggy.

    Good luck, NYH1.
     
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    I was hitting left with my G21. My cousin casually picked it up, shot 3 times and at 30 feet had a half dollar size group. He showed me a few things, focusing mainly on my grip. Problem solved.
     
  21. 777TRUTH

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    Forget changing your grip, finger placement on the trigger etc.

    Nudge your sights to the right and enjoy shooting.
     
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    Get a new set of sights from Dawson Precision and ditch the plastic Glock sights. You won't be sorry.
     
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    The trigger on the Glock is a longer pull, you are pushing it.
     
  24. Steve C

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    Gun alignment, proper trigger finger placement, and press the trigger directly back in line with the barrel. Trigger finger should not touch anything but the trigger. Any side pressure on the pistol by the trigger finger during the squeeze pushes shots to the left for a right handed shooter.
     
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    A 2lb trigger on a carry weapon is unsafe. You potentially open yourself up to all kinds of problems with a trigger that light. Personally, I would never consider carrying a pistol that had a trigger weight of less than 3 lbs.
     
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