1911 Stuck slide

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Looks like you need to move the barrel backwards toward the breach face inside the bushing\comp since it locked up on the way back. If you could hold the slide tight in a padded vice maybe you could take a lead punch and drive the barrel back and out of the tight spot. Then the bushing/comp should turn. You would need to make sure the hood was lined up. The hole in the end of the comp is probably pretty big but you need something the od of the barrel. Brass might work but would have more of a chance or hurting the crown. I would aply direct heat with a propane torch to the bushing/comp. It would be nice to know if lead is the culprit or a bulged barrel. I don't have much experience with bushing comps to know if leading is a problem but can see how it could be. I've never had much luck with soaking solutions but heat usually works, it's just sometimes you have to use more than you'd like to.

Ross
 
I would think heat applied to the comp. would work. IMO if you heated the bushing just enough to melt the lead the heat transferred to the barrel would be minimalized. With luck you be able to remove the comp before it cooled and glued itself back together. Maybe a damp rag around the slide to soak up some of the heat off of the slide. Just my own uninformed opinion.
 
What if you get a propane torch, and heat up the comp. Get some welder's gloves and turn it till it breaks loose. Then, when you get it off, throw it away. :neener:

Oh my God. I didn't even read that post by CCW1911. I'm a dork.
 
Well, I have tried "the solution" of hydrogen peroxide and venegar for a couple days and not much happening. The solution bubbles like crazy, butI cannot tell if it is getting down into the clearnce between the barrel and compensator.

I have hammer the barrel from the bushing end. I just does not move. I am afraid to hit it any harder!

Could lead really do all that?

I think tommorrow night we go with the heat on the comp. If that does not work, I will mill off the lug and link on the underside of the barrel. That should let me turn the comp till it disengages. Worth a shot. :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead: :cuss: :banghead:
 
OK, I admit having used a rubber mallet to free a Sig P220 slide from the barrel. I would even use a plastic or rawhide one but I wouldn't use steel against steel. When I freed the Sig, I lined the jaws of the vise with two blocks of wood. I then rapped it on the slide until the slide moved back enough so I could rotate the take-down lever. The Sig was removed from the vise, the slide moved forward off the frame and the obstruction (leftover of a patch) that was jamming the barrel/slide together removed. That was my gunsmithing of today.

Having never seen your compensator but assuming it is attached like a bushing, I would place the slide in a padded vise. Heat the compensator with a torch (but mind the color because you don't want to change the hardness). Then with padded vise grips (glue leather onto the jaws) clamp onto the compensator and rotate off. The heat causes it to expand and should free it up.

BTW, if I had to soak it, I'd use liquid wrench (if it doesn't harm the finish).
 
I certainly wouldn't advise steel on steel to drive the barrel back and didn't, for one thing it would swell the end of the barrel and defeat the purpose. Looks to me like unless you have reason to think the barrel is ruined you're contemplating hacking off the expensive part. I would think that bushing comp, in my opinion is useless, would be the part to hack on. Cut it off and save your barrel put a regular bushing back on and you're back to shooting.

Ross
 
I thank Mr.Pearson for his post. There is a lot of education here for us. Mr pearson is to be commended for not using an alias. Gun is prob ruined, but most of us who have not been there can learn! [email protected]
 
Steve, Is there ANYTHING stuck INSIDE your barrel? Inquiring minds and all that.

Did you soak the front of your slide or just squirt with the syringe?
 
Stuck in Barrel?

Howdy Hank,

He's already determined that there's nothing in the barrel when he checked
to make sure that the chambered round wasn't a live round. I believe that he did this with a pencil or dowel rod and a measuring tape, and that was one of the first things that he did. A lodged bullet would have been immediately apparent.

Onward...
 
Just checking Tuner. A good friend of yours knows that this is a bulged barrel problem. He thinks that he is omniscient. :rolleyes:
 
Thinkin' Stuff

Hank said:

>He thinks that he is omniscient.<
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Or assumes that everybody is just plain stupid... :rolleyes:

I think heat is gonna be the final answer to Steve's problem. Fingers crossed that permanent damage can be avoided.

Standin' by...
 
Stuck?

Well...Just to be fair and cover all bases...I suppose that a squib could have been driven out by another bullet...but Steve likely would have mentioned that a "misfire" had occured right before the jam.

Steve! Did ya have a misfire immediately before the hang-up?
 
The real proplem with those who imagine themselves to be omniscient is that they also imagine themselves to be omnipotent.
I guess it just frustrates them when everyone else can't accept it.
 
A Harmless Soak

Might try soaking in Kroil. I soak barrels in it all the time and it will "get under" most copper or lead and release it. It can't hurt anything.
 
Lots To Do

Well, I have a lot of answers to sort through here. Sorry to leave everyone hanging!

1. There is not anything in the barrel. I used a mirror to look. Then I used a pencil and a ruler. Then I just looked down the barrel. I can see the primer hole in the case at the other end.

2. I was shooting pretty fast in a friendly timed competition on falling targets. If there was a mis-fire and squib round stuck in the barrel, it is possible I did not notice it. But I don't think so. Besides, wouldn't that blow the gun apart? Also, there is no obvious bulge on the inside of the barrel.

3. Funny you should mention Kroil. That stuff is down right slimy and wierd that way it works. We use it at work and it can do wonders. I even like the way is smells, you know? I came to the same conclusion last night about trying Kroil and the slide has been soaking in it for about 24-hours as I type. I gave up on the peroxide/vinegar trick. The peroxide/venegar was staring to rust the slide in a spot or two so really wanted a different course of action. I need to save the slide.

4. I could drive the 45 miles, but heck you don't learn anything by letting everybody solve your problems. For ideas, you guys have more experience combined than the smithy I could go to and he'd cost as much as the new barrel is going to cost. We'll get it off.

5. The gun is not ruined. The frame is OK. The slide is OK. I still have the old bushing that the comp replaced. I will likely need a new barrel and must have a new slide stop.

6. When whacking the barrel, I had the back end of the slide on a wood block, a 1/2 oak dowel through the comp and on the barrel, and was using a lead shot filled dead blow rubber faced hammer. Man I was hitting that darn barrel and it just did not move.

Well, I think about answered all the questions. I am going back out to the shop and sit with my baby. I think I will give the Kroil another 24-hours and then go with the heat.

Thanks again for all the insights.
 
It is OUT!

Well, it took some effort but the barrel is out of the slide. The barrel has a bulge in it in the area that was siezed in the comp. My guess that I was shooing so fast that the 2nd bullet caught the 1st one just as it left the barrel!

I never felt the squibb shot. I was really racing! Lucky it did not blow up the gun or my hand or worse!

To get it off, we welded a nut onto the comp and ran a bolt down to the barrel. We held the comp in a vice and turned the bolt until the barrel pushed out. Of course this trashed the comp, but the slide is saved.

I need a new barrel and slide stop and to not use my buddies reloads. :banghead: :fire: :what: :eek:


Thanks again for all the help!
 

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Tuner:

That other fellow wasn't the only one to notice. We did also: Read post #10, second paragraph. But in any situation it's hard to touch all of the bases when you don't have the gun on the bench. Anyway, we learned something. :scrutiny: :D
 
Bulge. Aha! Sometimes they're not readily apparent. I had a S&W revolver that had a bulge and when you ran your finger over the barrel, you wouldn't feel a thing but when you looked down it and it was concentrically black in one area :uhoh:
 
Called It

Gotta give the devil his due though, Fuff...The man hit the nail square on the hittin' place early on at TFL...before anybody even knew it was a comp gun.
Dunno if he got a PM about it...but he did call it.

Come to think of it...I don't think I've ever even SEEN a comp gun in the flesh.
Good reason to be be extra-EXTRA careful with downloaded ammo...

Ya wouldn't think a squib would have enough oomph to cycle the slide and load a fresh round...I guess the momentum from that extra weight has a lot more effect than one would suspect. Verrrrryyyy interesting! :scrutiny:
 
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