1917 Enfield
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caribou
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Thats a beauty!
Its pretty hard to beat a M-1917 in action, sights or shootability.
Its pretty hard to beat a M-1917 in action, sights or shootability.
dh1633pm
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The US Model of 1917 is hard to beat. I sold mine just after my son was born. Needed the money. Sold it for $150. Regretted it, but family was more important. Replaced it in 2020 with a Remington in excellent shape. Cost me a bunch more. No complaints and it shoots great.
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NIGHTLORD40K
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Nice!
Ivee got a really clean Eddystone squirreled away, haven't shot it in a couple years. My Dad has a chromed parade Winchester, as far as I know, hes never shot it.
Ivee got a really clean Eddystone squirreled away, haven't shot it in a couple years. My Dad has a chromed parade Winchester, as far as I know, hes never shot it.
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American_Fusilier
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Beautiful! I'd love one of those!
Bwana John
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Does it have the English broad arrow acceptance marks on the receiver and after-added serial number on the bolt that go with the red paint (to identify that it was a M1917 in 30-06, not the more common in Britain P-14 in 303 Brit)
shuvelrider
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Was the red paint to signify a Lend Lease rifle and chambered for 30-06 rather than .303? To avoid confusion from P14 rifles still in use by the Brit Home Guard?
Bwana John
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The sights could have been improved with an easy windage adjustment like the M1918 BAR.
You can count on the fingers of a three fingered man, the number of service rifles with windage adjustment on the rear sights. Might take two hands with three fingers, but just try to find windage adjustable sights. Some SMLE's had them, but the British removed those.
this rear sight is not original to this rifle, I installed it myself
Obviously the people in charge came to the conclusion that if the rifle windage was off, that was something left for the Unit Armorer to fix. Just look at the front sights of the rifle No 4 MkI's of WW2. The British used a screw on the front sight base that held the front sight blade that required a special tool to loosen, to prevent the Tommies from drifting the front sight blades by themselves.
this war time rifle had two elevation settings. The theory was putting the bayonet would have different zeros for distances between 200 yards and 600 yards.
this was a good rear sight, no windage adjustment though.
I can't recall a Mauser with windage adjustment
This device was made by the Swiss to move their front sights. These are rare enough to command high prices.
the rear was only adjustable for elevation.
The rear sight of a M1917 is simple and straightforward
I have no idea how to use all the parts of this rear sight. Might take four years of class room education to learn the thing.
Bwana John
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Yea, WW 1&2 rifles with no easy windage adjustment…. but elevation adjustable to 2,000 meters!
Then there was the Japanese who took the concept of windage a little farther…
Then there was the Japanese who took the concept of windage a little farther…
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Offhand the only rifles I can think with windage user adjustable at the rear sight are US… .45-70 “Buffington,” various iterations of Krag, and the sight on the 1903, as well as the 03a3 and Garand.
The SMLE original sight was, but as mentioned, they phased that out and removed it from existing rifles when installed.
The 1917 is a great rifle. And yes, the red paint was applied to indicate that it’s a .30-06, not a P14 in .303 British.
The SMLE original sight was, but as mentioned, they phased that out and removed it from existing rifles when installed.
The 1917 is a great rifle. And yes, the red paint was applied to indicate that it’s a .30-06, not a P14 in .303 British.
