1st shooting impression of S&W metal competitor

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So I took my newly acquired DWX and Smith Wesson metal competitor out to the range today for the first shoots. I'd say each one got 200 rds.

My club has an indoor range, but it's a janky dim light building and only lacks the screams of help from a 19yr girl. So I went to the outside pistol bay, it was 35 degrees out.


I reload, haven't shot factory 9mm ammo in years. The bullets are precesion delta 124 V1.
The barrel has a tight chamber and very short leade, it's about .015 shorter than my Shadow 2, so if you reload be mindful.

I'll start with the Smith, not a fan of poly framed striker guns. I do own a gen 1 shield, shield plus and gen 1 compact M&P, always wanted a 5in model but was never that interested.

Now, the new metal MPs got my attention, personally I think it looks cool. I like the slide cuts, the color looks great, all black pistols just look boring.

The gun comes with 4 mags and personally I think they missed the mark on this. Has extended mag plates but doesn't add any rounds. Has have a nice mag well that's easily removed, but do to its shape limits aftermarket mag exts if one to add capacity.

The competitor also comes with a nice extended mag release, and non ext version. I can reach the release without breaking my grip, it's easy to activate force wise. Also threaded for possible aftermarket upgrades.


Now for the shooting experience, it was kinda.... just meh. Am not sure which pistol was a bigger letdown this or the Beretta 92x performance. Maybe I was expecting too much or just spoiled from having nicer guns. And honestly am not sure but what's the point of the alloy frame, kiddos to Smith for doing something different, but why not a steel frame.

In shooting I could feel the backstrap hitting my hand with each shot. Was it due to some weird recoil impulse or just me with freezing hands, I don't know. But just holding it, feels very good in the hand, has a nice undercut on the trigger guard.

Things that turned me off, the trigger sucks and this thing is labeled "competitor". According to my scale the pull weight is 6.8 lb.
My shield plus has around 3.5lb trigger, it's smooth with a fast positive reset. You can feel and hear the grit on this gun, not impressed.

The front sight is fiber optic but because the fiber doesn't go from end to end its completely dim. IMO, if this wanna be an iron sighted gun the front sight would get replaced.
The rear sight is very good, it's my preferred black rear. With an optic mounted one doesn't see the irons at all, which I really like. Can't stand irons that block the view.
A nice feature, Smith included 5 mounting plates, albeit they're plastic.


Can't speak to its accuracy, I just shot steel plates and didn't zero the red dot. At 20 yds I was hitting a 1/3 torso with ease.
I guess it boils down to this, I paid 1k for this pistol and it's not a 1k gun. You CAN literally throw another 100 bucks and buy a superior CZ shadow 2. I just don't see the performance difference between this and the poly framed gun.
 
That’s a thorough review. That’s too bad that it doesn’t live up to it’s expectations. While I don’t own one, I haven’t been inclined to purchase one simply because of many of the reasons that you point out. Hopefully S&W will be able to improve based on feedback from you and other users.
 
I agree with you about a steel frame versus aluminum. If this was steel, it would have more of my attention. I'd look at the CZ custom shop stuff before this if I wasn't into steel revolvers.

Agree on the irons too. If it's a competition model, why not just do away with the irons and the dovetails and all? Keep the optic and the gun uncluttered.

My comments aren't intended to rip on this particular gun -- I've never handled one. I just hope to promote guns in steel and that not everybody who trusts an optic thinks they need irons too.
 
I bought an M&P 40 Performance Center pistol for myself for Christmas and because of the weather I just got it fired up this past weekend,and it's the first S&W gun I've bought since 1994.It impressed me with the ergonomics,with the exception of the shape of the trigger,but it's not that bad.The thing shot like it meant business.I was well pleased with my first Smith purchase in so many years.It was laying in the local store's display case and when I asked about it,I was very quickly told that if I'd buy it,they would take 50 bucks off the price just to be rid of anything in 40 S&W since the cartridge is quite dead as far as anybody wanting one.It's still a good choice,especially in a pistol like the M&P that has a ported barrel and a full size frame.Don't know about on with an alloy frame though.I usually shoot Sig pistols,and while the alloy frame is ok,I don't see any advantage to it other than looks and feel.That is a good looking pistol you have there,and I would have to think it's going to be a good pistol.The other one you have is the one that sharpens my knife though.
 
Agree on the irons too. If it's a competition model, why not just do away with the irons and the dovetails and all? Keep the optic and the gun uncluttered.
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I actually like the irons, it's just the execution of the front sight, someone at Smith doesn't understand how F/O sights work.
Not everyone is gonna mount an optic and not all competition classes allow optics. If you removed the irons/dovetail that would severely pigion hole the pistol.

The irons when the optic is mounted disappear, IMO co witnessed irons is asinine. Good on Smith for not using tall sights.

This is my issue with front sight, its minor but small details drive me crazy. Top pistol is the Smith, bottom is a CZ pcr. The fiber optic runs all the way through the front sight on the CZ.

Not the best of shoots, but the CZ .040 in dia the Smith is .060. The fiber on the CZ is far brighter, in daylight it slaps you in the face and says here I am. The sight on Smith because it doesn't run all the way is muted and catches no light, it does absolutely nothing.

Now ultimately cause a dot will live on this and I can't see the front sight anyways im i dont kinda care, it's just one of those things that bug me.

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It looks like they were hoping the light would enter from above. As you noticed, the fiber optic transmits light from one end to the other much better than it does at the right-angle.

As far as no-sight slides, I'd like to see it as an option. I understand that not every competitor uses an optic, and there are divisions without them, but it seems like there could be more than one SKU. Rifles have mostly lost their irons. Revolvers with an optic could also do away with the front sight. In both those cases, it wouldn't be so easy if the owner changed their mind. Changing slides is a lot easier than changing barrels, at least on most guns.
 
Funny, I took my Competitor and DWX shooting last week, along with a few other December acquisitions.

The Competitor’s trigger registers 4.75-5lbs on my Lyman gauge. I did five pulls.

I agree with much of your assessment. If you want a stellar striker trigger, pick up a Strike One Ergal. Best striker trigger on the market, bar none. 2lb break, no creep, short reset.


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