2 New Kimbers... Broken..Help me out guys

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So I called Kimber today and the Ultra CDP I sent in with extraction problems is getting a whole new top end. I was told the slide was out of spec. They have agreed to send a pick up tag for the Gold Combat. I am 99.9% sure I am going to sell the Kimbers and get a Wilson. The Tactical Elite looks real nice.
 
lawdogso... while you're checking out Wilsons... the CQB is a great gun at a good price... I just picked up a new black & grey CQB for $1950 and it's a superb 1911 indeed. Plus, Wilson's customer service/customer satisfaction is legendary.
 
So I called Kimber today and the Ultra CDP I sent in with extraction problems is getting a whole new top end. I was told the slide was out of spec.
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Either that, or they are switching from an external to internal extractor, and have to change the slide to do it.

I just picked up a new black & grey CQB for $1950 and it's a superb 1911 indeed.
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One Thousand, Nine Hundred, and fifty bucks!!!! :what:

It had better be good... :uhoh:
 
My Kimber CDP Pro w/IE has been flawless. I expect it to perform like that for years to come. I have about 1K rounds through it and I love it.
 
ditch em

"Trade them in on some Sig's"

yep, get em 'fixed' and trade em in for a Sig or if you want a 1911 get a Springfield Loaded.

I asked my gunsmith about Kimber, as in. does he see very many come in for repair and what kinda stories has he heard about them, he told me he didn't see many Kimber in for repair until about 3 or 4 years ago when they started 'mass producing' them. He said their quality has gone downhill. Apparently he isn't the only one to notice problems with them. Denver Police don't care for them either. ---->
Denver Police and Kimbers
http://denvergov.org/Portals/326/documents/2005-03.pdf

"Based on this new information, as of 04/15/05, Kimber handguns will no longer be authorized for use."
"Apparently, officers from around the country are experiencing problems with Kimbers. The VP told me that guns are regularly sent back to Kimber, but his lab cannot duplicate the malfunctions."

I'll pass on Kimber.
 
heck get a sig 1911!
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My GSR needed work to get it running out of the box - luckily it was work I was able to do myself. The GSRs also have all machined internals. My Colt XSE Combat Commander, even with MIM parts, has run great out of the box and has better fit and finish.
 
I pick up my Sig 229 Elite .40 on Tuesday. It will join my Sig 220 .45 that has been a dear friend for 15 years now.

Lawdogso
 
My GSR needed work to get it running out of the box - luckily it was work I was able to do myself. The GSRs also have all machined internals. My Colt XSE Combat Commander, even with MIM parts, has run great out of the box and has better fit and finish.
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really? darn i have heard and read great things about em and accrate as all get out.
 
Best deal going is the Colt. Much as I enjoy my customs and premium brand 1911's, I'm just as happy with the many wonderful Colt 1911 I have... just one example, my XSE Government, has been a perfect performer... beautifully made, stone reliable from the get go, and very accurate... no need to spend more than around $800 and get a superb 1911.

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Only problem I've had as of yet with my two Kimbers is a weak mag spring on my Tactical Ultra II. I wouldn't be at all averse to buying another Kimber (would love an Eclipse Custom II 10mm), though I don't see why a Springfield Loaded wouldn't be just as good of a gun at the lower price. But before I repeat myself any more...regarding the MIM parts, from what I remember the Dan Wesson 1911s don't have any in them.
 
I'm not very forgiving

I have a Kimber Custom II that I bought recently ($585 new). I love it! Honestly though, if a pistol I like has an issue I'll give it a once over to fix it and bring it to 100% reliability......if I have a second issue with it, I fix it and sell it.

I can handle a pistol that shoots groups a bit larger than I prefer....but reliability is a must. I agree with a few others here, try out a Sig (non GSR).

Jerry
 
Old Fuff... actually 1950 is a decent price for a new CQB.... perhaps you may not be aware, but except for one or two models, Wilsons, Browns, RRA's, etc. are all over $2k.
 
...perhaps you may not be aware, but except for one or two models, Wilsons, Browns, RRA's, etc. are all over $2k.
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I know... I know...!! And it gives me sticker shock.:what:

Other then bragging rights, I don't see what the buyer is getting that's necessary. Of course there is a difference between "necessary", and "desireable." If I was going to blow two grand I get an older Colt commercial Government Model, set it up the way I wanted, and have enough money left over for a case of ammunition or two. :cool:

But to each his own...
 
Old Fuff.... I don't see nor feel a "necessity" to spend over 800 or 900 for a good 1911!

I'm a huge fan of the $800 Colt (see my XSE above) and have been clear that I believe that's all one really *needs*. In fact, I truly enjoy my $800 Colts (Series 70, 1991A1, XSE) as much as I enjoy my Wilson, Brown, and my custom Colts (Ned Christiansen, John Harrison, Virgil Tripp, John Bettendorf).

Production Colts, Springfields, Baers, Browns, Wilsons, and customs... they're all wonderful guns... just different! Something to appreciate and enjoy and rely on at ALL price points.
 
I enjoy my $700 Kimbers, but I enjoy my Ed Brown more. Believe me, it is worth the price, at least to me.
 
Dobe, your signature is flawed. The last 1911a1's the U.S. army ordered were during WWII, there were no "right-outa-da-box" guns for Korea and Viet Nam, etc.

(I get your point though!)
 
I have long felt that Kimber and some other 1911 clone makers feel they are making "big boys toys" rather than serious firearms. The silly names they choose proves the case, IMHO. Makers of real guns don't do much of the "Combat" BS. They don't have to impress overage kids.

At one time, every major handgun maker fired at least one proof load for each chamber, and at least one cylinder/magazine for function firing before the gun ever left the factory. But when I asked Kimber about this, their rep told me that they fire one (1) Cor-Bon round as a proof load, and that is all. Since the Cor-Bon is within SAAMI pressure specs, it is not even a proof load, so the gun really gets one round through it before being sent to the customer. That means that it is the customer who gets to test the gun to see if it will even extract a round or feed a second one. And if the customer needs the gun before getting it fixed the 50th time, tough luck.

Doesn't such concern for the life of the customer give you a warm fuzzy feeling all over?

Jim
 
Dobe, your signature is flawed. The last 1911a1's the U.S. army ordered were during WWII, there were no "right-outa-da-box" guns for Korea and Viet Nam, etc.
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Well not exactly. In the years that followed World War Two a substantial number of new, and unissued pistols were still in inventory. Then the Army would recall and rebuild guns that had been issued, often retaining only the frame. During the wars in Korea and Viet Nam most of the guns that were issued were "rebuilt and boxed" and in effect like new. The obvious exception would be arms that were already in the hands of some units that kept them when they were deployed. Of course there were exceptions, but most were more then serviceable, and yes – they did function.
 
I wont buy a kimber based on these kinds of threads. Ive read way too many threads that have the same underlying trend being lousy QC on kimbers part.I figure that all the threads Ive read on GT, THR, and 1911 forums must have some truth to them.
One of my best friends bought a kimber cdp II. The damn thing wont slingshot on a full magazine to go into battery. It has done it this even without a magazine to hold the slide stop up. The only reason I could imagine is that the kimber recoil spring assembly binds up causing the gun to get stuck. If Im not mistaken the recoil spring assbly is a Kimber design. It has the hole in he guide rod in which you place an allen key to hold the spring in place for disassembly. Its not the typical 2 pc or GI plug design. Once the spring binds up the usual 1/4" that is required to slingshot the slide is taken by the bind. Ive never seen this problem before. The other kicker I find is the lousy kimber customer service. If I pay $700-1000 On a new gun the CS better be top notch. Not some guy telling me that the malfunction is caused by me and that I need to put 500 more rounds through the gun before I try to send it back.

They make some very pretty guns but if the dont function 100% then I dont need to own them!
 
I do think that most Kimbers are sold as weekend play toys, not as serious defense tools. Their aesthetics, naming, and promotions appeal make them seem almost more like toys than real guns. But some of them are good guns. Some are not. I have three older Kimbers (pre-Series II) that are good guns though one of them took incredible heroics to get to run right and I'm still not so sure I really trust it.
 
I have never had any problems with my Kimber TEN II...It holds 14+1 in .45
one of my favorite...the other extra 14 rd mag is nice TOO!
A friend bought the small Kimber two tone Custom carry detective model.Don't recall the extaxt name,It did not feed just right.Kimber fixed it!!!Works GREAT! Combat shooting he is PERFECT with it! Never a problem since!!!
 
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