20" A2 Style AR-15. Who make them?

[HoosierQ]

My next gun is going to be one of three choices (AR, M1 Carbine, big .357).

Regarding the AR: I want a rifle not a carbine so much. Who has got basically a straight up 20" A2-style AR-15? Olympic has one with a 1:9 twist un-chromed. Couldn't really find any others but of course they are out there.

I want to go pretty "retro" here. Good iron rear sights, 20" chrome-line barrel, fixed buttstock, no rails (or few of them), a carry-handle (removeable is OK). So you get the idea, an AR-15 pretty close to the configuration of the M16A2.

I may go the build route but I want to see what's out there first.

Anybody prefer a 20" AR?

 

[Byron]

A 20" barrel is my preference. I doubt anyone is making the original AR style which Colt referred to as a SP. Byron

 

[rcmodel]

Just about everybody that makes AR's makes a 20" A2 style.

http://www.dpmsinc.com/firearms/firearm.aspx?id=32

rc

 

[Canuck-IL]

When searching for them, use the terms "National Match," NM or DCM - almost everybody offers the traditional style, most with a choice of fixed or removable carry handle. It's the style shot in Highpower as Service Rifle.
/Bryan

 

[Rshooter]

I prefer the 20" AR myself. I do not expect to be clearing any buildings or such so I want to get the extra spin and FPS at the muzzle. You can also use these for match rifles if you are into that.

 

[benzy2]

The National Match or DCM or CMP 20" ARs are not standard 20" ARs. They most all have 1:8 twist, they most all have a free float tube that the standard handguards hook to, many have extra weight added, most use a non-chromed barrel often of better grade than the standard 20". They tend to be thicker profile barrels that are a bit heavier. A few have added lead weight in the handguard and buttstock for position shooting. Most carry two stage trigger no lighter than 4.5#.

The point is they aren't run of the mill rifle length options. Often they shoot better but they tend to be heavy which position shooters like. Just know there is a difference for the good or bad.

That said I think almost everyone that makes a carbine length also offers a standard rifle length. RRA has been a favorite of mine. You get a good shooter for the money. It may have cut a few battle rifle corners but the accuracy is great. There are many good options that will shoot well under $1000. The more you spend the rougher you can treat the thing and the more abuse it will stand up to as well as the more features you will get.

 

[RockyMtnTactical]

I don't prefer it, but they are not too bad.

 

[ArmedBear]

Many of the 20" ARs available have heavy barrel "HBAR" profiles (larger diameter under the handguard than the military M16A2 has). I have one, and I like it, but if you really mean that you want an A2-barrel-profile 20" rifle, Bushmaster makes one: http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_military_MCWA3S20.asp

If you want a 20" HBAR with an A2 upper receiver, those are easy to get from most AR vendors.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I kinda have a thing for em too

 

[rizbunk77]

how many makers are making the sp1 style with the delta handguard

 

[Digitalage03]

My next gun is going to be one of three choices (AR, M1 Carbine, big .357).

Regarding the AR: I want a rifle not a carbine so much. Who has got basically a straight up 20" A2-style AR-15? Olympic has one with a 1:9 twist un-chromed. Couldn't really find any others but of course they are out there.

I want to go pretty "retro" here. Good iron rear sights, 20" chrome-line barrel, fixed buttstock, no rails (or few of them), a carry-handle (removeable is OK). So you get the idea, an AR-15 pretty close to the configuration of the M16A2.

I may go the build route but I want to see what's out there first.

Anybody prefer a 20" AR?

pretty much anyone that makes ar's have the 20inch model, infact if you want where i am at you can get a complete original colt m16 a1-a2 upper for about $450 (roughly) depends on condition, and that is a complete colt upper. as far as lowers go they are cheap. about $100 for the lower, $55 for parts set and about $50-80 for a complete stock.

 

[alemonkey]

When I get around to building an AR one of these days it will be a 20" version with a detachable carry handle. I want to shoot CMP matches but I also want to try my hand at 3-gun competition some day. I know a rifle set up for CMP isn't ideal for 3-gun but it would get me started. I'm thinking I'll buy a stripped lower and then buy a kit from Del-Ton or Model 1. Both companies offer quite a few options.

 

[BusMaster007]

I built a 20" w/collapsible stock, and I'm working on another one like it with a stainless 1:8 RRA/Wylde-chamber bbl.
The collapsible stock look isn't for everyone, but it suits me and works just fine.
There's a thread on AR15.com about M16A4 clones with a ton of pictures for reference.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=337931
Have fun with your project.






Pix of the completed project plus one of a mock-up without the handle on top.
I used a CHOATE 'commercial' stock; sufficiently stout, but not 'mil-spec'.
The lower is a MEGA, from Tumwater, WA. A special AR15.com Washington Hometown Forum project.
The upper is an OLYMPIC ARMS, from Olympia, WA.
So, this is my 'WASHINGTON STATE' AR15.

 

[ArmedBear]

I wouldn't put a 20" and a regular M4 collapsible stock on the same build, but with the Choate it looks like it would shoot well.

 

[HoosierQ]

That DPMS Panther Classic that RCModel recommends is just what I was looking for. That's the ticket.