2010 CHL's issued in my ZIP code
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Buck Snort
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Given the crime rate in Texas that seems a prudent thing to do.Checked the Tx DPS and according to their statistics, and the number of sq. miles in my zip code, there were approximately 10 new CHLs per square mile issued in 2010. Gotta love Tx.
Just thought this was interesting.
Double Naught Spy
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That is interesting. Just what Tx DPS statistics tell you how many CHLs issued in a zip code are actually new? They do not have a section for new issuances per zip code in their section on issuances by zip code.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/demoreportscy10.htm
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/demoreportscy10.htm
CHLB Reports Sorted By Zipcode:
Am I missing something? Having a Sr. moment?
Take the 2009 stats by zipcode and compare them to the 2010 stats.
What that won't get you is the actual true number of new-issue license, because some may be transferred addresses. I'd fall under one city's zipcode for 2009, and another zipcode for 2010.
What that won't get you is the actual true number of new-issue license, because some may be transferred addresses. I'd fall under one city's zipcode for 2009, and another zipcode for 2010.
medalguy
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250 in my ZIP. I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy about now.
Wow!
Using the DPS info Double Naught Spy supplied in 2010 exactly 50 CHL'S were given out in my zip code and mine was one of them.
Also by searching www.zipskinny.com I found the population of my zip is 27,718.
The area is 10.1 square miles.
Population is made up of 60.7 Latino,19.8 White,16.8 Black.
Low,very low number of CHL's here and believe me you need one here.
Edit to add...In 2010 only one applicant was denied in my zip and there were no suspensions or revocations in my zip.
So maybe that means what few good guys there are in my zip we are smart enough to keep our noses clean.
Using the DPS info Double Naught Spy supplied in 2010 exactly 50 CHL'S were given out in my zip code and mine was one of them.
Also by searching www.zipskinny.com I found the population of my zip is 27,718.
The area is 10.1 square miles.
Population is made up of 60.7 Latino,19.8 White,16.8 Black.
Low,very low number of CHL's here and believe me you need one here.
Edit to add...In 2010 only one applicant was denied in my zip and there were no suspensions or revocations in my zip.
So maybe that means what few good guys there are in my zip we are smart enough to keep our noses clean.
Coincidently, that's the number of deer per square mile in a nearby wildlife management area here.Checked the Tx DPS and according to their statistics, and the number of sq. miles in my zip code, there were approximately 10 new CHLs per square mile issued in 2010. Gotta love Tx.
Just thought this was interesting.
Double Naught Spy
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You must be having a senior moment because there are no data on that page that specifically indicat the number of licenses that were new for 2010 by zip code. You have no way of knowing how many were renewels. You may have had a lot of licenses issued, and that is good, but they aren't all NEW as you claimed.
A couple of folks that I know that teach CHLs run anywhere from about 1/3 to 3/4 of their classes being renewels. I would guess that maybe 50% might be a good average (emphasis on guess), maybe a bit less.
This won't work either for determining how many were new in 2010 by zip code because licenses aren't for just one year. As with 2010, the 2009 data state the number issued that year and not how many people actually had them already in the zip code or how man were new. Licenses are for 5 years now which makes it a tad more complicated to determining what you want. So it isn't just the change from 2009, but also 2005 (or maybe 2006 if the 5 year rule wasn't yet in effect).
TXDPS used to have a running tally of the number of CHL holders but I don't see that now.
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nswtex
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Kinda buzzkill. To perk it up a bit, new or not it makes me feel good to know more and more of my fellow Texans are getting OR renewing their CHL
Larry E
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Aside from my neighbor across the street and maybe his wife, I don't know anyone around me that has a CCP permit. Montana has VERY strict privacy laws which keeps the busy bodies noses stuffed up. 
Thanks. You got the point. New or renewed, thats a lot of CHL holders per square mile - in an upscale, low crime rate area (I don't actually know the crime rate but I get monthly e-mails from the city police rep for our HOA; typically not much goes on in our area).Kinda buzzkill. To perk it up a bit, new or not it makes me feel good to know more and more of my fellow Texans are getting OR renewing their CHL
Anyway, at least people are taking advantage.
Double Naught Spy
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And you have more than just your 10 per square mile because you have all those that got or renewed their CHLs in 2009, 2008, 2007, and 2006 as well.
In the CHL classes I have taken and those where I have helped be a RSO, the classes are remarkably dominated by middle-aged to early retirement folks, predominately males, predominately overweight, middle class, upper middle class, and higher. My take on it is that you have people who have finally accumulated a certain amount of wealth and comfort in their lives, are physically slowing down, and wish to be able to keep what all they have and themselves safe. In other words, they are realizing that they are viable targets with waning physical prowess that isn't going to dissuade too many bad guys. Teddybear daddies and grand daddies just aren't the tough guys they once were.
Lots of folks, however, don't carry or don't carry regularly after getting their CHLs. Maybe only about 1/3 will carry daily. Some almost never carry and just have the CHL as an option. Maybe 10-20% will go to the range more than twice a year. In three different classes, I have seen students unload the carry ammo for their gun that turned out to be ammo they loaded in their gun after their last CHL qualification which was the last time they shot their gun. The guns are usually bone dry and I suggest that they lube them while they have them unloaded.
nswtex
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Wet blanket kinda stuff :banghead: lets all carry 24/7 and make a range trip 3 or 4 times a week, maybe shoot somebody from time to time to prove our skill, so the internet will think our stats make sense and that we are responsible gun owners.
I would certainly carry more but I can't have a firearm on my employers property - not illegal just a fire able offense. Sucks.
afponiky
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Wow, you guys are really something else!
Picking a fight over how many are renewals?
Hmmmm.......
Picking a fight over how many are renewals?
Hmmmm.......
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