.22 LR @ 100 Yds. - - One Hole Obsession

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I’ve shot 3 inch groups with this ‘old timer’ (that’s the gun by the way) at 200 yards with .22LR RWS Match ammo but I’ve known people do a lot better than me with the same rifle. Guess it’s all down to the right weather conditions, ammo, rifle, scope etc and of course … the shooter.
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Vern Humphrey

I am using Lapua X-Act and Lapua Master L. My understanding is that Lapua does not make Master L any longer. I purchased a good supply when I found it shoot well all of my competition .22's.



Calibr44

Good looking rig. I can believe a three inch group at 200 yards and even a little better. But I still am having trouble digesting a one half inch group at 250 yards which some have claimed. Not saying it is impossible, just not probable.
 
You will need ideal conditions to one hole with a .22 @ 100 yds.

To do it consistantly you would have to do it indoors to remove the many variables involved, wind etc.

That's provided your rifle and ammo are up to the task.
 
crazy-mp
I am definitely taking my time between shots. Breathing and trigger squeeze are still the basics of shooting. I don't believe fouling is a problem but I never examined this aspect. I have been going on the premise that since I put 2 or three in the X ring and one or two just outside of it that fouling is not the problem. Anyway in a match, I don't think they will let me stop and clean my bore. :)

Believe me no offense taken. I am pretty thick skinned, and yes it can be the operator. You guys are helping me explore all the possibilities.

Hey, get this one and it seemed to work. I read an article and several posts that said if you treat your bullets with Napier pellet lube you would improve your accuracy. It did not help the accuracy of Lapua and Eley, and it did not improve the accuracy of high-speed .22 LR, but it did improve the accuracy of standard and sub-sonic inexpensive ammo. I used a small 1.5" diameter cap filled with water about half full and I sprayed the Napier pellet lube onto the water. Then I dipped the bullet of the .22 LR cartridge into the water with the pellet lube floating on top of the water. It coated the bullet with lube. Actually it improved the accuracy of the cheaper brands of standard and sub-sonic ammo. At 50 yards this works but not good enough for 100 yards.
 
I converted my 10-22 varmitter to 17mach2 as I said before. I got consistant quarter size groups when it was a 22 by trigger work (1.5) with bags. beddiing, and using a lock tite ( green) mounting barrel to receiver. I shot quarter size groups ( 25cent size) with several types of ammo. best was eley hp's. High velosity, rws subs, and mini mags hv22's. I have a 1 lb trigger on it now with the conversion to 17 but I'm not there yet.



Jim
 
Just One Shot,

The next home I build will have an underground 200 yard range. I am sure my wife will understand. If she doesn't, I'll find a new YOUNGER wife. :)
 
Husbandofaromanian...

The claims I am hearing are a bit wild. How about an inch group with a .22 LR at 250 yards... Hmmmmm! Do I believe it? A better question is, do you believe it?

Now you know what I mean by a grandiose claim. Later... T.
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Please be accurate with my bragging. I said i can shoot a group of an inch AND a half at 100 yards. THAT'S 1.5MOA.

I use a Kestrel wind/atmosphere meter & a pda.

At 300 yards my Eley tenex bullet is dropping 140.5 inches.

Because I am able to accuratly calculate drop, I can ring my 11in gong @ 300 yards, 9 out of 10 times ALL DAY LONG (windless conditions)

Anyone who would like to visit Music City and head out to my favorite 300 yard range for a day of fun. Come on, I will demonstrate.
 
The next home I build will have an underground 200 yard range. I am sure my wife will understand. If she doesn't, I'll find a new YOUNGER wife.
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:D

Let us know when it's completed. I'm sure we have a few people on here that would love to help you break it in!

(I'm referring to the range not the new wife. :neener: )

:D
 
I have understood they shoot those groups at 50 yards for a rimfire, and 100 for centerfire.

Maybe this would explain your .6" average at 100yds.

Just a thought.
 
Steve Boelter (Rifleman's Guide to Rimfire Ammunition) shoots a lot at 100 yds as I understand it. He posts over at RimfireCentral a fair amount. Check the forum out if you have not already. It is THE rimfire forum.

Anyone who would like to visit Music City and head out to my favorite 300 yard range for a day of fun. Come on, I will demonstrate.
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Husband... Where do you shoot over in Nashville area that has a 300 yd rifle range?
 
A private range in Manchester. I like to go at sunrise when no one is there so I can enjoy not wearing hearing protection using my silencer. I'm planning to go out there this Saturday morning (tomorrow) with a co-worker to test some ammo if you would like to join us. We will get there about 6 am.

Pm me if you would like to join us.
 
Okay.... just fired a match this morning using the equipment that I have described above. We fire 2 targets for record and we fire a sighter target with 10 rounds if we want to. I fired all 4 targets with 10 rounds each only dropping 1 point. I did not count how many X's I had. ... Thanks! Your suggestions are helping.... I Still don't have all rounds in the same hole however.
 
Husbandofaromanian

Hmmmm.... I did not say I disbelieved your claim, I said I don't know if I believed the gentleman that said he was getting 1" groups at 250 yards. That claim is not in this post. Sorry if you misunderstood my post.
 
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Just One Shot,

I am sure there would be a few that would like to help me break in both. But I don't plan on trading this wife in for a new one anytime soon. She is pretty good. I get to buy what I want and she gets to buy what she wants.

As far as the 200 yd. indoor range? I don't think that would be practical for me. But I do plan on a 110 yd underground range.
 
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Thanks Husbandofaromanian for the info. Pretty good run from Nashville. I suspect we are about the same distance. I will pass for now. I'd probably embarass myself. :)
 
I just left the range about an hour ago. I was testing Lapua Pistol King for speed and velocity consistancy. I was very dissapointed. Speeds ranged fromt 1020 fps to 1068fps. I get about that spread with dirt cheap Federal 714. How it was giving me clover leafs at 50 yards that I wasn't getting even with Eley Tenex.

I've got to argue the cost issue. Eley Tenex is about 35 cent per shot. Other than Lapua's new stuff, this makes it about the most expensive out there.

When I drive to Outdoor World and buy Remington .223 fmj 55-grain @ 50 cents per round, I am buying pretty close to the cheapest center fire ammunition available (excluding corrosive military surplus).

However, for 35 cents per round, I can shoot Eley Tenex that has won more gold medals than any other 22lr round.

I consider 35 cents per round for the BEST 22lr ammunition DIRT CHEAP!!!

Now I do have over 10k rounds of Federal 714 that cost me 4 cents per round for most plinking. But for shooting past 200 yards, I shoot the best.
 
Walter,
I am sure that there are plenty out of the box rifles out there that will do some amazing thing because my Savage made a believer out of me.

Also I have a Mossburg 44 us(d)'s that will shoot an inch and a half group consistently with Federal (white box) ammo. It never wants to do any better than that so I had to move on.


gunnie,

I did read the article and it's worth a try. I am also going to start weighing my rounds and sorting by weight. I understand many of the top shooter do it.
 
I have a Marlin 7000 T with a 4X14 AO Bushnell scope. This was an innexpensive rig, but it really does a number at 50yds with match ammo. With Ely Tenex, it will cloverleaf 10 rnds from sandbags, basically a quarter sized group. I drew a few onlookers @ the range once, & the owner even called a cease fire to retrieve the target when I was done.

I have never tried it @ 100 yds; I guess I am a little worried about getting addicted to the pursuit & having to spend massively to feed it!
 
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I agree Walter...

I was never a big fan of Savage, but the past 5 to 7 years has really changed my mind.

I may have been given a bad impression back in the 60's from a bad Savage rifle (all manufacturers make them) that I owned and then after that I thought they were just not up to par.

I now have a Savage .17 rim fire, and a .223 and a .308 Savage that are excellent shooters. Actually they shoot just as good as my high dollar rifles.

One of my friends just built 4 tight neck Ackley Improved 22-250's. The cost was outrageous, but they shoot same hole and I do mean same hole at 100 yards. He held the tolerances in "tenths" (.0000"), I'll guess and say 3 to 5 thousandths. Actually beautiful work and beautiful rifles. He asked me if I wanted one but I declined. I have so much going on now that it would just be another gun I never get to shoot.

Anyway. I get to talk about shooting more than I actually get to do it.
 
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