Tell me a little about the Ruger 10/22, Marlin w/ a clip or the CZ 22 semi-autos. I was leaning towards the Marlin when a buddy of mine at work said not to get a Marlin. I was under the impression that all three were equally reliable. Just need some info. Thanks.
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I'd say, get a Marlin with a tube feed.
My 22/45 is incredibly reliable with a clip, and with any ammo I put into it, no matter how crappy. My 10/22? Not even close.
Marlin 60 has been more accurate, too. Just doesn't have a detachable magazine -- which I understand can be important in some situations.
My 22/45 is incredibly reliable with a clip, and with any ammo I put into it, no matter how crappy. My 10/22? Not even close.
Marlin 60 has been more accurate, too. Just doesn't have a detachable magazine -- which I understand can be important in some situations.
BobbyQuickdraw
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I was going to get a Ruger 10/22 as many will recommend, but recently the Marlin 60 has been more attractive to me. It's generally much cheaper, by about $100, has comparable if not better accuracy, and seems to be very reliable. Like any gun, keep it clean.
The 14 round tube magazine is fine by me. Swapping out two 10/22 clips would give you 20 rounds (plus those cost about $25 a piece) so you still get good ammo capacity in the Marlin.
Cabela's (and others, I'm sure) also sell a speedloader that has 6 cylinders that you load then can reload your Marlin with. So load the Marlin by hand, carry the reloader, and you can shoot 7 full mags in a reasonably short amount of time - for 98 rounds of fun.
The 14 round tube magazine is fine by me. Swapping out two 10/22 clips would give you 20 rounds (plus those cost about $25 a piece) so you still get good ammo capacity in the Marlin.
Cabela's (and others, I'm sure) also sell a speedloader that has 6 cylinders that you load then can reload your Marlin with. So load the Marlin by hand, carry the reloader, and you can shoot 7 full mags in a reasonably short amount of time - for 98 rounds of fun.
The price difference really got my attention with the Marlin. The only thing my buddy at work said about his Marlin was that it was the tubular magazine and that it jammed a lot. His Marlin is about 15 yrs old. I figured that you really can't go wrong with a Marlin firearm. Any additional info helps. Thanks.
B. Adams
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The Marlin will be more accurate, probably more reliable, and a fun plinking gun. The speedloader mentioned earlier sounds interesting too.
The Ruger should be reliable, but somewhat less accurate. You can load as many magazines as you want, so you can keep on shooting and shooting. You can get as big as 50 round magazines (30 rounds is common), and sometimes it's fun to just let it rip.
Both would be cool, but there are a ton of accessories available for the 10/22, and it can have much higher magazine capacity. You'll probably be happy with either one, and probably eventually want to buy the one you don't get now, so it's really kind of a toss-up.
The Ruger should be reliable, but somewhat less accurate. You can load as many magazines as you want, so you can keep on shooting and shooting. You can get as big as 50 round magazines (30 rounds is common), and sometimes it's fun to just let it rip.
Both would be cool, but there are a ton of accessories available for the 10/22, and it can have much higher magazine capacity. You'll probably be happy with either one, and probably eventually want to buy the one you don't get now, so it's really kind of a toss-up.
hags
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Wow, my experience has been quite the opposite. My 10/22 has never had a hiccup. The tube magazines are fragile and are easily damaged rendering them useless.
As far as accuracy goes, I'm in to the same hole consistently at 25 yards and less than an inch at 50 yards.
The availability of 10/22 upgrade and aftermarket parts is unbelievable.
If you haven't already check out: www.rimfirecentral.com
As far as accuracy goes, I'm in to the same hole consistently at 25 yards and less than an inch at 50 yards.
The availability of 10/22 upgrade and aftermarket parts is unbelievable.
If you haven't already check out: www.rimfirecentral.com
Omaha-BeenGlockin
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I've had 5 or 6 10/22's----still have 3-----all have been dead reliable---unless you're using crappy ammo and get a dud. Not sure where people say they have had 10/22 problems???----probably didn't clean it when new???
Have a 10/22, runs fine with the Ruger mag, as well as those Butler Creek "Hot Lips" 25 rounders.
Have an OLD Marlin 99, the 17-round(??) tube magazine...works great since I really cleaned it...took out the action, and swished in a tank of min-spir for a couple of hours. When put back together, I swear that OLD 99 was 2 pounds lighter...
First .22 was a Nylon 66...never a glitch with it, except with Rem 40-Gr "Golden Bullet" solids...A rem rifle that hated Rem ammo...go figure.
Have an OLD Marlin 99, the 17-round(??) tube magazine...works great since I really cleaned it...took out the action, and swished in a tank of min-spir for a couple of hours. When put back together, I swear that OLD 99 was 2 pounds lighter...
First .22 was a Nylon 66...never a glitch with it, except with Rem 40-Gr "Golden Bullet" solids...A rem rifle that hated Rem ammo...go figure.
I've got a basic, bone stock Marlin Model 60. Bought it new about 3 years ago or so. Here are the pros and cons as I see it.
Pros:
-It's cheap (inexpensive)
-Fairly accurate
-Reliable
-Holds 14 plus rounds
Cons:
-Few aftermarket mods.
-Tube feed makes mounting a bi-pod difficult.
Regarding accuracy, my personal best 5 shot group at 100 yds was 3/4 in. I think it would be tough to repeat that consistently however. Average closer to 1 1/2 to 2 inches with generic bulk ammo. At 50 yards it will put 14-15 rounds through a postage stamp. A better quality scope than what I have may improve that a little.
I've shot over 8630 rounds of various kinds of ammo through it. Remington and American Eagle bulk have given my rifle the most grief. I've had 7 stovepipes out of 1075 rounds of the Remington bulk. I've had 15 FTF and 3 stovepipes out of 400 rounds of the American Eagle bulk.
CCI products have been nearly flawless. 1 stovepipe out of 1700 rounds. 1200 of those rounds were CCI Mini mags with zero failures of any type.
It doesn't seem particularly finicky about cleaning. I've gone as much as 1000 rounds between cleaning with no noticeable difference in reliability. I know others might voice a different opinion, but that has been my experience.
I don't own a 10/22 but will get one in the future simply because you can mod them to your hearts content. They too are good guns and my impression is the build quality is a little better than the Marlin, and the price reflects that.
If you got a synthetic stock stainless barrel Model 60 it would be a great "go in the woods and beat it up" gun.
Hope that helps.
Pros:
-It's cheap (inexpensive)
-Fairly accurate
-Reliable
-Holds 14 plus rounds
Cons:
-Few aftermarket mods.
-Tube feed makes mounting a bi-pod difficult.
Regarding accuracy, my personal best 5 shot group at 100 yds was 3/4 in. I think it would be tough to repeat that consistently however. Average closer to 1 1/2 to 2 inches with generic bulk ammo. At 50 yards it will put 14-15 rounds through a postage stamp. A better quality scope than what I have may improve that a little.
I've shot over 8630 rounds of various kinds of ammo through it. Remington and American Eagle bulk have given my rifle the most grief. I've had 7 stovepipes out of 1075 rounds of the Remington bulk. I've had 15 FTF and 3 stovepipes out of 400 rounds of the American Eagle bulk.
CCI products have been nearly flawless. 1 stovepipe out of 1700 rounds. 1200 of those rounds were CCI Mini mags with zero failures of any type.
It doesn't seem particularly finicky about cleaning. I've gone as much as 1000 rounds between cleaning with no noticeable difference in reliability. I know others might voice a different opinion, but that has been my experience.
I don't own a 10/22 but will get one in the future simply because you can mod them to your hearts content. They too are good guns and my impression is the build quality is a little better than the Marlin, and the price reflects that.
If you got a synthetic stock stainless barrel Model 60 it would be a great "go in the woods and beat it up" gun.
Hope that helps.
I've had both and I think it depends on what you want to do with them.
Stock the Marlin wins hands down. It's cheaper, more reliable and more accurate. The only real advantages a 10/22 has is it's more compact, uses detachable mags and it can be easily modified. If you plan on modifying it the 10/22 really comes into it's own. After you've spent a few hundred bucks on it the 10/22 will be more accurate and much nicer looking than the Marlin in addition to being more compact and taking detachable mags. I'd still give the Marlin the nod for reliability however.
Stock the Marlin wins hands down. It's cheaper, more reliable and more accurate. The only real advantages a 10/22 has is it's more compact, uses detachable mags and it can be easily modified. If you plan on modifying it the 10/22 really comes into it's own. After you've spent a few hundred bucks on it the 10/22 will be more accurate and much nicer looking than the Marlin in addition to being more compact and taking detachable mags. I'd still give the Marlin the nod for reliability however.
CajunBass
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I've got a Wally World 10/22 that's a squirrel killing machine. A few malfunctions at first, but since then it runs great. I don't shoot it fast enough to get it "warmed up" so it might be different then.
I've had a couple of Marlins over the years. Good guns too.
I've had a couple of Marlins over the years. Good guns too.
jrfoxx
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Yup.I really like my Marlin 60 (mines the plain looking Glenfield actually, but same thing ohter than being uglier
). That said, I have never even handled one of the CZ's, and its been quite a while since I tried out a buddies 10/22, but I recall it worked just fine and was as accurate as my Glenfield.Probly pretty safe with any of them, but the Marlin/Glenfields will likely be quite a bit cheaper.- Status
