.223 verses 7.62x39

[epijunkie67]

Part of the answer to this age old question is based on the NEXT question. Which is, what kind of ammo are you using? There's a heck of a lot of difference in .223 FMJ military vs soft point hunting vs ballistic tip varmint ammo. Same for the 7.62. Are you wanting to know how the military rounds compare or are you wanting to know how ALL of the different rounds compare?

The other question you have to ask is, what range do you plan on engaging the target at for each of these rounds? And what weapons platform are you using? Velocity from a short barreled M4 is going to be different than from a 24" bolt rifle and that, coupled with expected ranges AND which of the above rounds you plan on using, can make one or the other rounds the "best" for that particular shooting exercise.

Millions of people around the world are dead from both. That being said, in response to this question you asked, ;"On a similar note, can the .223 reliably drop a deer as can the 7.62x39.", the .223 isn't legal for hunting in several states. Take that however you chose to take it.

 

[Don't Tread On Me]

Any way you slice it, the .223 is still just a .22 caliber. The 7.62 is a full house .30 cal. You decide.

[ROFL, flame bait - I love it. This is grade A stuff too.]


Perspective!

The .308 is just 0.084" bigger than .223. Now that is what I call a giant leap in performance!

[.311 for 7.62x39mm]

 

[R.H. Lee]

The .308 is just 0.084" bigger than .223. Now that is what I call a giant leap in performance

And it weighs more than twice as much (that's 100%+ increase) which is significant, no?

 

[pcf]

Stallone? Willis? Weaklings! The question should be, if Chuck Norris had a 5.56x45 and Steven Seagal had a 45ACP, in the epic battle for middle earth, which one would rule them all?

Ammo choices, ammo choices......
With the 5.56x45 the only choice is M193/XM193. It's tactical hyper velocity loading allows the the bullet to "tumble" when entering a semi viscous fluid substance. The centrifical acceleration from tumbling bullet tip exceeds the speed of light causing a cross dimensional vortex to form, displacing matter into Dimension-X. Many people think that these wounds are caused by "fragmentation", but that's because their simple minds can't handle the Law of Hyperspeed Quantum Displacement of Matter.

7.62x39 bullet selection doesn't matter, after it's 7.62mm wide, that's three tenth of an inch. Think about it. Quick think of something else that's three tenths of inch.............Couldn't do it, could you? Three tenths of inch is so big that you couldn't think of anything else near its size. I rest my case.

 

[MechAg94]

And the whole package weights 3 times as much right?

.308 is another league above 7.62X39.

 

[rbernie]

The .308 is just 0.084" bigger than .223. Now that is what I call a giant leap in performance!

Getting serious for a minute, this is a specious argument in that it ignores the actual gain in frontal area between 5.56 and 7.62. The 223 has a frontal area (presuming no deformation) of 24.3 sq mm and the 7.62x39 has a frontal area of 45.6 sq mm. Therefore, the 7.62 bullet will create a hole almost twice as large (again, absent any deformation of the bullet via yaw-n-fragmentation or mushrooming).

 

[Bigfoot]

PCF makes a good point. The .45 ACP bullet is bigger and heavier then even the .308. The .45 ACP weilded by Stevan Segal beats them all, .308 included.

Or maybe, just maybe, the much higher velocity MIGHT make the 5.56 more effective than the 7.62x39? Naw, basing parformance on size alone is easier on the brain. And Segals is bigger so he wins.

 

[R.W.Dale]

HA! one needs not look any farther than the original assult rifle round 450/577
Think about it it's OLD it's BIG and it's SLOW the exact same critera that makes 45acp the the handgun of choice for the gods and mortals alike. A handgun cartrige so good that the minds mere mortals cannot grasp the full scope of its tacticalosity. A cartrige so devistating that even the mighty Zeuss fears it.
So why not go with a rifle cartrige with all of the same attributes.

 

[gp911]

Wait, nobody mentioned that anyone staring down the "cavernous" barrel of a .45 will instantly empty their bowels until slide lock...

The only way to scare somebody to death faster is to rack the slide on a pump shotgun, because that is the scariest sound on earth.

The only thing scarier than either of those is to close the mirrored door of the medicine cabinet and see Chuck Norris is behind you.


gp911

 

[Bigfoot]

The only way to scare somebody to death faster is to rack the slide on a pump shotgun, because that is the scariest sound on earth.

Oh no you di-int. Ok, Jennifer Lopez with a 12 GA pump vs. Janet Jackson with a .450-577. Jen is wearing black leather w pumps and Janet has that one droopy boob showing.

 

[Nathanael_Greene]

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