223 vs. 246 pound hog
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spclpatrolgroup
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Good job, what bullet did you use, and where was it shot?
aerod1
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I was hunting out of Falfurrius, Texas. I was using my AR-15 loaded with 55grain 223 JSP (like a Rem. CorLokt) over 23.0 grains of H-335. Nothing spectacular so far as the cartridge goes. It travels at about 2940 fps. It is a boar and I shot him at exactly 100 yards. I shot him in the head low and behind the ear. One shot and he was down. I really enjoyed that shot!!
Last year my 8 year old grandson shot his first deer, a doe, using the same cartridge in a NEF HandiRifle, with one shot to the heart.
I'll post some pictures of him in another thread. I am proud of that boy!
Some say a 223 is too small for deer, but if you wait for a good shot and don't rush, I think it is just fine.
Last year my 8 year old grandson shot his first deer, a doe, using the same cartridge in a NEF HandiRifle, with one shot to the heart.
I'll post some pictures of him in another thread. I am proud of that boy!
Some say a 223 is too small for deer, but if you wait for a good shot and don't rush, I think it is just fine.
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Nice!
MCgunner
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You weren't far from me. I'm in Corpus. Nice shootin'. 
hogshead
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Good hog.
allaroundhunter
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Don't you know that .223 isn't fit for hunting?
In all seriousness, I love my AR for hog hunting. Great shot, and great pig!
In all seriousness, I love my AR for hog hunting. Great shot, and great pig!
MachIVshooter
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Nice pig! Mine have all been just a little more than half that weight. 130-160. I've used a .308 and a .350 Rem Mag; When you're having to drive 500 miles and spend so much on fuel and contributing to the lease, you don't screw around with smaller calibers.
aerod1
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A 130 - 150 pound hog is some great eating!!
allaroundhunter
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Agreed. Shoot the big ones for pictures and the small ones for grilling.
RedHeadHunter
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Nice Hog! Nice shot!
I too like to use small rounds for the added challenge of shot placement. I recently took down a 250+ lb (scale maxed out) hog with a 30 carbine and dropped it where it stood. My buddy shot the same size hog at the same distance through the chest with a 500 S&W Mag and the spewed a geyser of blood for a minute then got up and walked away. We recovered it later.
Small calibers are great if you are experienced and are confident in your shot. If someone asks me if they can use an AR in 223 for deer or hog, I usually tell them to go with something bigger. If they are not already experienced enough to know what a 223 can and can't do, it is best if they gain the experience and confidence over time before advancing to a small caliber.
Congrats on your grandson's kill. My son is 6 and is very small for his age. The Davie Cricket and Red Rider are still way too big for him. But we are practicing. I hope he will have a story like your grandsons soon.
I too like to use small rounds for the added challenge of shot placement. I recently took down a 250+ lb (scale maxed out) hog with a 30 carbine and dropped it where it stood. My buddy shot the same size hog at the same distance through the chest with a 500 S&W Mag and the spewed a geyser of blood for a minute then got up and walked away. We recovered it later.
Small calibers are great if you are experienced and are confident in your shot. If someone asks me if they can use an AR in 223 for deer or hog, I usually tell them to go with something bigger. If they are not already experienced enough to know what a 223 can and can't do, it is best if they gain the experience and confidence over time before advancing to a small caliber.
Congrats on your grandson's kill. My son is 6 and is very small for his age. The Davie Cricket and Red Rider are still way too big for him. But we are practicing. I hope he will have a story like your grandsons soon.
aerod1
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Red Head,
Your grandson can have a story like that someday. All he needs is for you to be his mentor and see that he has plenty of range time. Last year during the summer break, I took my grandson to the shooting range every week. I knew he was ready. I am no professional, so I am sure you and your grandson can do the same. Enjoy the days of his training, because he will remember them forever!!
Jim
Your grandson can have a story like that someday. All he needs is for you to be his mentor and see that he has plenty of range time. Last year during the summer break, I took my grandson to the shooting range every week. I knew he was ready. I am no professional, so I am sure you and your grandson can do the same. Enjoy the days of his training, because he will remember them forever!!
Jim
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Here are the pictures of my 8 year old grandson and his first deer. He was a happy boy but his grandad was elated!! He had his traditional deer blood face paint initiation for shooting his first deer. Look at that big grin! I love that boy!
The deer was taken with reloads that he helped load! Yep, he is learning to reload ammo as well.
This kid loves anything associated with outdoor activity! We are starting his little sister out on a BB gun this year. She is 5 years old which is the same age I started her brother.
The deer was taken with reloads that he helped load! Yep, he is learning to reload ammo as well.
This kid loves anything associated with outdoor activity! We are starting his little sister out on a BB gun this year. She is 5 years old which is the same age I started her brother.
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chas08
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You place a shot like that with just about anything and it's D.R.T. Nice shot and Nice Hog!
CoRoMo
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Unlucky day.
For the hog.
Great hunt! And I love that old school AR!
That would be a rather large hog around here. 100 yards and DRT is well done. Salute! Sometimes it seems like caliber wars are like many things in life; I hit a 7 wood for 210 yards and you hit a 7 iron...so what, they both get the job done if the green is hit.. IMO there are not to many things I am liable to come across that the AR-15 can't handle with the various hunting ammo's I use; option #2 is run away or pass on the shot!!
Again great shot; 100 yards is nothing to sneeze at considering POA.
Again great shot; 100 yards is nothing to sneeze at considering POA.
LeonCarr
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Nice hog...1 down, 2,000,000 to go .
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
.Just my .02,
LeonCarr
MCgunner
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Hmm, figured this might turn into a caliber war. My wife's uncle shoots 'em with his only rifle, a .22LR Savage autoloader, old one. They die with a head shot. If they get away with a bullet in 'em, they'll probably die eventually, all he cares about. He don't eat 'em, just shoots 'em to keep 'em from rooting up his yard. They live on a farm outside of Seguin, Texas, lots of hogs. I need to get that pic of her aunt with her foot on a 250 lb hog he shot. She's holding a Daisy Red Rider, 86 year old woman. Pretty funny. I could post it on threads like this and claim all you need is .177 Daisy.
My wife's uncle shoots 'em with his only rifle, a .22LR Savage autoloader, old one. They die with a head shot. If they get away with a bullet in 'em, they'll probably die eventually, all he cares about. He don't eat 'em, just shoots 'em to keep 'em from rooting up his yard. They live on a farm outside of Seguin, Texas, lots of hogs. I need to get that pic of her aunt with her foot on a 250 lb hog he shot. She's holding a Daisy Red Rider, 86 year old woman. Pretty funny. I could post it on threads like this and claim all you need is .177 Daisy. aerod1
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MC, that would be a funny picture!!
Well I am glad this didn't develope into a caliber war. I really just wanted to brag a little and also brag on my grandson. After all, I am from Texas!
Well I am glad this didn't develope into a caliber war. I really just wanted to brag a little and also brag on my grandson. After all, I am from Texas!
MCgunner
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Everything a Texan says is the honest to God's truth, count on that, would I lie?
Hope that hogs tastes decent He's about at the top of where I wanna go with an eaten pig. I'd soak the heck out of him on ice water for a few days before butchering. Makes some fine sausage and BBQ.
You're grandson has me beat by 3 years, shot my first at age 11. Sounds like he's got the feel of the sear already.
Hope that hogs tastes decent He's about at the top of where I wanna go with an eaten pig. I'd soak the heck out of him on ice water for a few days before butchering. Makes some fine sausage and BBQ.
You're grandson has me beat by 3 years, shot my first at age 11. Sounds like he's got the feel of the sear already.
aerod1
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My grandson has never been hurt by recoil. I am taking him up very slowly. As you know a 223 is low recoiling. As a result of this, he has no "flinch" nor a tendency to jerk the trigger. His trigger control is awesome!!
For a child's first shooting experiences, I wonder about "adults" who knowingly put a high recoiling gun in the hands of a child realizing it is going to hurt. Shooting is to be enjoyed.
For a child's first shooting experiences, I wonder about "adults" who knowingly put a high recoiling gun in the hands of a child realizing it is going to hurt.
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