.223 Wylde Barrel Recommendations

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Hi All-

I am looking for a heavy CHF chrome lined barrel I think, does anyone have recommendations on brand/model?

Thanks
 
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I went with Krieger 223 Wylde chambering a few years ago. Looks like they have barrels in stock currently.

My Colt Match used to shoot MOA with one bullet, 55 gr hollow points, factory HBAR barrel, 5 round groups.
After re-barreling with Krieger it now shoots six different bullets, 45 gr to 70 gr into 3/4 MOA shooting TEN ROUND groups.

Anyone doubting the difficulty of 10 round sub MOA groups at 100 yards shot in 30 seconds, I recommend should give it a go.

https://www.kriegerbarrels.com/instock

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Ru4real said:
I went with Krieger 223 Wylde chambering a few years ago. Looks like they have barrels in stock currently.

My Colt Match used to shoot MOA with five rounds with one bullet, 55 gr hollow points, factory HBAR.
After re-barreling with Krieger it now shoots six different bullets, 45 gr to 70 gr into 3/4 MOA shooting TEN ROUND groups.

Anyone doubting the difficulty of 10 round sub MOA groups at 100 yards shot in 30 seconds, I recommend should give it a go.

https://www.kriegerbarrels.com/instock

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I looked at those, they're like $900 right? I don't hunt or shoot comp., so not in scope for me. Based on the videos I watched, they are damn nice barrels.
 
I’m not sure about current Krieger pricing. But in 2016 I sent my entire upper with bolt to Krieger. They installed a 20 inch heavy contour, 5R rifling 1 in 9 twist barrel, finished chambered it, replaced the gas tube and sent new upper along with old barrel back to me. I put on the lower and went and shot it. I paid Krieger $550 all in, taxes, shipping, gunsmithing, etc.

Is a 223 that shoots 6 different bullets sub MOA, ten round groups in 30 seconds from a bi-pod worth it? Only you can decide if it’s worth it to you. I’ve shot it enough along side other guns and shooters to know it’s pretty special. Others I let shoot it usually want to buy it. I think it’s worth it.
 
Ru4real said:
I’m not sure about current Krieger pricing. But in 2016 I sent my entire upper with bolt to Krieger. They installed a 20 inch heavy contour, 5R rifling 1 in 9 twist barrel, finished chambered it, replaced the gas tube and sent new upper along with old barrel back to me. I put on the lower and went and shot it. I paid Krieger $550 all in, taxes, shipping, gunsmithing, etc.

Is a 223 that shoots 6 different bullets sub MOA, ten round groups in 30 seconds from a bi-pod worth it? Only you can decide if it’s worth it to you. I’ve shot it enough along side other guns and shooters to know it’s pretty special. Others I let shoot it usually want to buy it. I think it’s worth it.
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That does sound like value, thanks!
 
A 1:9 twist is a good twist for general shooting. It will work well with 50 grain to maybe 69 grain bullets.

A 1:7 twist barrel will work well with 55 grain to 80 grain bullets. Lighter bullets may disintegrate due to the rapid spin rate.

I've had good luck with White Oak Armament, Shilen, Black Hole Weaponry, and Kreiger barrels. I'm sure others will do well as well.

Order the barrel with a head spaced bolt. A small price addition and you know the bolt is properly fitted to the barrel.
 
cfullgraf said:
A 1:9 twist is a good twist for general shooting. It will work well with 50 grain to maybe 69 grain bullets.

A 1:7 twist barrel will work well with 55 grain to 80 grain bullets. Lighter bullets may disintegrate due to the rapid spin rate.

I've had good luck with White Oak Armament, Shilen, Black Hole Weaponry, and Kreiger barrels. I'm sure others will do well as well.

Order the barrel with a head spaced bolt. A small price addition and you know the bolt is properly fitted to the barrel.
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Would this be an entirely new AR BCG?

If the new headspaced bolt failed, would my stock bolt work with the new barrel?

Also, would I need to change my current hand loads because of the new bolt?
 
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Why do you want a Wylde with Chrome Lined? Seems counter productive to me.

I'd recommend White Oak, Faxon and Brownell's house barrels (most are criterion) I have a WOA Service Match uppers and a 16" mid that shoot incredible.
I have a Faxon Gunner 5.56 and Big gunner 308 that shoot well enough I'd have no issue using a Wylde from them.
I've used a couple Brownell's barrels one a 5r 1 in 8 twist 6mm creed that shoot 1/2 MOA with cheapish Hornady Black.
 
mavracer said:
Why do you want a Wylde with Chrome Lined? Seems counter productive to me.

I'd recommend White Oak, Faxon and Brownell's house barrels (most are criterion) I have a WOA Service Match uppers and a 16" mid that shoot incredible.
I have a Faxon Gunner 5.56 and Big gunner 308 that shoot well enough I'd have no issue using a Wylde from them.
I've used a couple Brownell's barrels one a 5r 1 in 8 twist 6mm creed that shoot 1/2 MOA with cheapish Hornady Black.
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Yeah, the chrome lined thing was recommended, but I've read that the inconsistency of the chrome could alter accuracy. The input here makes things easier.
 
peeplwtchr said:
Would this be an entirely new AR BCG?

If the new headspaced bolt failed, would my stock bolt work with the new barrel?

Also, would I need to change my current hand loads because of the new bolt?
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The bolt that came with the barrel would work in your existing bolt carrier.

There is a reasonable chance that your existing bolt would gauge correctly but you would need a set of head space gauges or take it to someone who has head space gauges to see. If it did not gauge correctly, you should get one that did.

There is no machining involved in head spacing an AR-15 bolt, you merely try a different bolt.

Some folks just throw any bolt they have on hand in a new barrel but in reality, it is not the best for accuracy, case life or safety. In general, machining techniques and the ability to maintain tolerances are very good these days so that if a manufacturer adheres to the specs, very few bolts fail to gauge correctly.
 
Chrome lining is for rifles that get run hard and put away wet. If you aren't shooting 100 RPM or going 1000s of rounds between cleanings you don't need a chrome lined barrel (want, as we know is a separate thing ;)). I've heard from many people that you'd be just as well served with a melonite treated barrel.
 
I haven't talked myself into one yet, but I've been looking hard at Ballistic Advantage's Premium Black Series. They're 416R stainless steel that has been QPQ treated (melonited) with a black finish and a Nickel-Boron coated feed ramp extension.
 
PSA puts an FN made CHF/CL 223 wylde 18 inch barrel on one of their uppers. Out of stock like most things at the moment.

If you can live without the Wylde chamber, I recommend the Daniel Defense S2W 18 inch. I own one on an irons-only build & really enjoy it.

If you're looking for a 16 inch, then contact Lothar Walther & pick up one of these.

It will be more accurate than any CHF/CL barrel & Lothar Walther's proprietary stainless (which is nitrided in this particular version) will last almost as long.
 
I have 3 Criterion barrels and one on the way, both in 223w and 308, probably my favorite AR barrels. I have a couple Wilson Combat barrels that are top notch too. I would have no issues recommending either of those
 
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Check the criterion website. I have three of their barrels all shoot under a inch with five shots of bulk Hornady 55 grain FMJ.
Not all chrome lined barrels are equal. Throat erosion is minimal with chrome.
I have read great things about Lothar Walther barrels for a AR. I have one on a CZ 455 and its a improvement over stock.
 
Many claim that nitride is as good as chrome and is more accurate. I don't have any personal data to back this up but have been happy with my Faxon Gunner barrel with the nitride coating.

I posted these results in another thread a couple days ago. These were loads I made with 77 Nosler and 73 ELD bullets, shot at 100 yards.

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earplug said:
Check the criterion website. I have three of their barrels all shoot under a inch with five shots of bulk Hornady 55 grain FMJ.
Not all chrome lined barrels are equal. Throat erosion is minimal with chrome.
I have read great things about Lothar Walther barrels for a AR. I have one on a CZ 455 and its a improvement over stock.
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@earplug
You've got my curiosity peaked. Is this a 50 yard group or further out? What is the load data.
 
MarshallDodge said:
Many claim that nitride is as good as chrome and is more accurate. I don't have any personal data to back this up but have been happy with my Faxon Gunner barrel with the nitride coating.

I posted these results in another thread a couple days ago. These were loads I made with 77 Nosler and 73 ELD bullets, shot at 100 yards.

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@earplug
You've got my curiosity peaked. Is this a 50 yard group or further out? What is the load data.
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I will recommend what I have experience with and they are very accurate. Check Rock River Arms website, they sell barrels too.
 
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