.22LR or 30-06?

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My XD is in the shop and I don't have my shotty yet, so for bedside gun that leaves me with 2 options. My ruger 10/22 and my Rem 700 30-06. I'm pretty darn accurate with both of them but the 700 usually only sees 100 yrd paper targets.

Judging from bolt time vs a semi-auto, I have the .22 sitting by my bedside. Hopefully I will not need to use it, but I am very confident that if called upon, I can nail tacks from across my bedroom with it. It is loaded with velocitors and I know it will drive at least 12 inches of penetration. Point blank energy is around 200 ftlbs with the velocitors, and the rat-tat-tat-tat that I normally practice at 25 yrds will let someone know that they are being shot for certain.

Just wondering, would anyone here pick the 30-06 and why? I'm firm on my decision, but thought this might make a good thread for people to consider when the "primary" weapon is not around and there are not a lot of guns laying around the house. The only other gun I have is my Beeman pellet gun and I sure aint using that :D
 
Don't have the same bolt action hunting rifle you have- mine is a Ruger M77 in .25-06- but I think they are comparable in weight, "actionability", etc.

Now, I have been able to get off a lucky shot with said rifle after being rudely aroused in a deer stand by marauding porkers.

However, for me, I'll have to agree with the 10-22 for bedside or any other HD uses given the circumstances you describe. The 10-22 is light, handy, reliable and I'm fairly decent with it (for an old man with shaky hands, bad eyes, carpal tunnel, other infirimities associated with adding on years). As you point out, the better .22 LR rounds have good power and pentetration all things considered.

But then if your .30-06 were a tanker Garand, this would sure change things, huh? ;)
 
I'd go with the 10/22 hands down. Small, light, easy to point fast, and 10 rounds of some velocitors will ruin some low life's night. The aught 6 is too powerful, will nail your neighbor through a few walls, and is way overkill. Not to mention the muzzle blast will probably damage your ears indoors.
 
I'd only pick the 30'06 if your sure you'd terminally hit 'em the first round, or if your your wanting a mere psychological edge (the boom may just put them in to a fright state enabling you to get off a second round, or cardiac arrest) so that they run. Otherwise I don't think they'll survive a spray of 22s ... especially if you "stroll" to the phone to dial 9-1-0 ... opps, better do it again, 9-1-1 (you get the idea).
 
You can get an extended magazine for the 10/22 - 25 rounds of .22 out of a handy carbine is nothing to sneeze at.

No, I wouldn't pick the .30-'06 for in the house. Outside, maybe. .30-30 lever action carbine? Now, that would be more of a question.
 
A bolt-action .30-06 is great for hunting and would be useful for long-range combat even today, but I'd recommend a semiauto .22 over it for defensive use because it will allow quicker followup shots (among other reasons).
 
I would go with the 10/22 for sure. In fact I see one right now. As far as the .30-06 I can only guess that after going through the bad guy there might be enough energy to cause damage to anything behind the target. How many of my Home's walls and the neighbor's is not an answer I want to know.
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I'm not too quick with a bolt, I guess I've never really tried to be. I feel like I could probably fire all 10 rounds in the 10/22 and insert a new mag in the time it would take me to fire 2-3 shots with the 30-06 so I would go with the 10/22.
So why is your XD in the shop, if you don't mind me asking?
 
dcdub, getting tritum night sights ordered/installed. I work offshore and being on call, I'm supposed to go back to the rig very soon and will not have a chance to drop it off when they call.
 
I'm not sure I wouldn't rather run out the back door for help rather than fire a .30-'06 inside.

The blast is bad enough outside.

Some years ago a friend of mine who had just bought a Garand decided to function fire it in the basement. He had a heavy duty bullet trap, and he put in ear plugs and put on external ear protectors.

He fired one shot. The sound was painful. The light bulbs in the basement were shattered, and when he turned on his flashlight all he saw was dust from the rafters.

Now, maybe with one of those old adapter cartridges that enable one to use .32 ACP rounds....
 
You could use reduced loads in the .30-06, but if you don't reload that isn't an option.

The deployed sights would be almost as important as the chambering. For indoors you want sights that are practical at short range. It would be an unusual .30-06 bolt gun that is equipped w/same. The muzzle blast from a .30-06 indoors would be epic.

10/22 would be my choice of the presented options too.
 
I've never felt undergunned with my 10/22, which has been kept handy for more than two decades now. If I cannot finish the fight with fifteen-plus rounds of CCI Mini-Mags, I'm in a world of trouble no gun is gonna get me out of. Mine stands by along with my bedside revolver (and I carry when up, anyway.)
 
Use the 10/22.

The 30-06 with hunting loads will shoot through 3 BG's stacked prison lover style!

You don't want to stop the threat and kill the neighbors down the street with one shot!

rc
 
I'd take the 22 over a bolt .30-06. I guess it wouldn't hurt to keep the 06 out too, in case of a malfunction. (My 10-22 malfunctions every now and then - and I wouldn't want one to be when I really need it. If you feel comfortable with yours, which I don't, then maybe you wouldn't want the bolt gun out.) Overpenetration is better than zero penetration in my book.

3 BG's stacked prison lover style!
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:what::what:

RC, where can I send the bill for a new keyboard? That right there is the funniest thing I've seen all day.
 
10/22 with those velocitors,, mighty fast,40-gr hollowpoint ,,, I fire my .243 from under-shelter-cover at the range and people think it barks pretty loud (Rem-700 VTr with muzzle-brake) I couldnt imagine what a .06 would sound/feel like when fired INDOORS !~!
 
FWIW, for defensive use with a .22 rimfire, a heavier solid bullet is likely a better bet than a fast moving hollow point. Expansion won't help much with a .22- what you need to try for with a .22 is penetration. I would use CCI 40 grain solids if I had to depend on a .22.

ymmv of course...

lpl
 
Deltaboy said:
10/22 with Stingers or Yellow Jackets!
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Personally, I wouldn't trust these loads to penetrate adequately when shot out of rifles, as they'd probably fragment.

Lee Lapin said:
FWIW, for defensive use with a .22 rimfire, a heavier solid bullet is likely a better bet than a fast moving hollow point. Expansion won't help much with a .22- what you need to try for with a .22 is penetration. I would use CCI 40 grain solids if I had to depend on a .22.
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Some of the heavier hollow-points, such as the CCI Velocitor, should work alright with either rifles or handguns for that matter (no expansion with the latter). Here are some terminal ballistics test results:

http://www.brassfetcher.com/var22lrrifle.html

That said, I'd be sorely tempted to use the 60 gr Aguila Sniper SubSonic out of a rifle, myself, since I favor penetration and wouldn't mind a heavier, sturdier bullet in such a small caliber (provided that it feeds, fires, and extracts reliably, of course).
 
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