.22lr Rifle Options?

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2 guys at the last 3 Gun match shot 10/22's because of ammo prices and it really looked like fun. I only have a Magtech 7022 .22 rifle (cost me $66 new) but it only has 10 round mags. What are my options for a "military" style .22lr rifle?

1) New Spike's Tactical .22lr AR15 upper will run me $550 plus the cost of a few $30 mags. I don't believe the mags have a bolt hold open fucton either.

2) AKT-98 - I had one of these .22 AK's a few years ago and it wasn't terribly reliable and the mags only come in 10 round capacity (although there are supposedly some 30 round mags in development). Can't find one for sale now, they are gone.

3) GSG-5: seems cheap for the priced paid but people swear by them.

Anything else I am missing? I guess a 10/22 with 30 round mags and a new stock may be the best option?
 
Given the numerous aftermarket accessories available for the 10/22, it can be made to resemble a military rifle. Apart from posting your inquiry at THR, I also suggest you visit Rimfirecentral.com. That website specializes in rimfire firearms and the members there will provide you with additional information for your "project". Good luck with your search.


Timthinker
 
The answer is a pawn shop ruger 10/22 with a whole mess of aftermarket parts. You get this:

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It's a blast to shoot, and wonderfully accurate.. If you want some more informtion, let me know.
 
BlisteringSilence,

Where is your 10/22? Seriously, what parts did you use? I thought it was a Krinker Plinker kit at first with an ACE stock.
 
hartzpad,

It's a 10/22 with a Nordic Components AR-22 stock, ACE buttstock, YMH free float forearm and scope ring, harris bipod, Whistle Pig 20" compensated barrel, and an aimpoint 2x scope.

and it shoots nickel 5 round groups at 50 yards.
 
If you want it to look like an AR and shoot decent, go with a 10/22 and mod the heck out of it. You can have it shooting ragged holes too.
 
The H&K GSG-5 has captured my interest. I just wish I knew how reliable they are in terms of function. That would be my suggestion.
 
Model 1 Sales .22LR upper. $475 instead of $550. Mine's great. But it doesn't have LSHO. No Ciener-bolt guns do, AFAIK. Neither does a 10/22 without modification.
 
Century Arms International has a few military Anschutz's that I guess was made for German training rifles. I would think that would be about as good as it gets in .22 military style. It's listed on their website but no price.
 
"The H&K GSG-5 has captured my interest. I just wish I knew how reliable they are in terms of function. That would be my suggestion."

+1 with what .22-rimfire said. If you have the budget, I'd definitely get this guy.

I haven't had extensive experience with it, but a guy at the range let me put about 10-15 rounds through his and I fell in love with it. Smooth, cool looking, nice trigger and it comes with a 20 round clip I believe. He said he bought it at a local shop for $500 NIB.

(I need to learn how to properly quote)
 
as to the GSG-5 vs the 10/22, I would suggest the 10/22 for a 3 gun competition. And I own both. The reason I say thus is the 10/22 can be set up and tweaked however you want it. With the Nordic components stock, you can put any AR style buttstock, pistol grip, free float forearm, and optics you want. And as we all know, there are millions of choices. With the GSG, you're limited to what the company produces, plus what airsoft accessories you can find that work.
 
My .22LR AR upper has been a LOT more reliable than my 10/22 ever was. A LOT. As in, two bricks of cheap bulk ammo between cleanings, and no misfeeds nor any FTFs that weren't caused by dud ammo, since the initial break-in period of a few hundred rounds. Loading the magazine is far more pleasant, too, since the spring tension is much lower.

If you can live without the LSHO feature, I still think that's a better option than any of the above.

http://model1sales.com/catalog-list...2LR Upper Halves&image=22LRUHSC.gif&storeid=1
 
I love the idea of "military" .22s. I decided on the AR platform, and I've finally got a dedicated .22lr AR-15 that I get to shoot for the first time this weekend.

The AR is platform that I'm most familiar with, so here's what I know:

You can get Last Shot Bolt Hold Open with either a Ceiner AR-15 or a 10/22. Black Dog Machine makes Ceiner-compatible 27-round magazines with a LSBHO follower. This follower will lock the gun open, but it does not activate the bolt hold open on the AR. Therefore, the action will close when you eject the magazine. Single magazines will no longer drop free (in my case, I've heard of others where they did), but when coupled in a MagCinch, mine do. It would be pretty simple to weight up a single magazine so that it would drop free.

Also, Black Dog Machine is producing its 27 round magazine for the CZ V-22 upper and the M261 training unit. I don't know if these are compatible with the LSBHO. The website does not say that they are strictly limited to the Ceiner-based magazines, so I would assume that they would work in the other units as well.

BDM is also working on a WASR AK/22 30 round mag that should be out soon, if the AK is more your style. On their website, the owner states that he's going to try his magazine in a Ceiner AK conversion and see if it will function.

As far as gun choice, I chose the AR because I felt that it offered the greatest opprotunity for customization and fit. JP is now selling a kit that allows the direct attachment of AR sights, stocks, grips, and forearms while retaining the 10/22 action. Very interesting option, but I still prefer the AR safety and mag release.

If you do go the AR route, there's a couple of different ways to do it.

The simplest is to just get a Ceiner conversion and drop it in a 5.56/223 AR upper. The different twist rates (1/7 to 1/12) of the centerfire versus the rimfire (1/14 to 1/16), different bore diameter (.222 vs. .224) and the long freebore (about 2in) due to the .223 to .22lr chamber adaptor will be detrimental to accuracy, but you can still shoot .223/5.56 ammo through the upper, and I have read a review of just such a conversion that held 2" at 50 yards. However, I've also read reviews of conversions that didn't. If you're going this route, I would suggest a barrel with the 1/9 or 1/12 twist.

At the other end of the spectrum, you can get a dedicated .22 upper reciever. These guns have barrels with the proper twist rate, bore diameter, and have .22lr chambers. Due to the proper .22lr chambering, the chamber adaptor is removed. This is going to be your most accurate way to go. Common sources for these uppers are Model 1 Sales and Spike's Tactical.

The AR that I've got has a barrel with .22lr twist rate and bore diameter, but has a .223/5.56 chamber and uses the stock chamber adaptor from the Ciener kit. I got it from Kurt's Kustom Firearms, he's got pictures on his website of sub 1" 10 shot groups at 50 yards with match ammo, and 10 shot groups smaller than a quarter at 25 yards with bulk pack. Works for me. An advantage that I saw in going the route that I did was the ability to order a barrel with exactly the length and profile that I wanted. Also, by buying just the barrel and Ciener kit, I was able to completely part out my AR, and I didn't have to get rid of parts that I didn't want or need.

I think that rimfire action shooting is a great amount of fun. As much as I like both rimfires and actions shooting, I'd love a RIPSC where .22 rifles and pistols would be used.
 
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