.260 Rem. VS. .257 Roberts
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Read this:
http://www.gzanders.com/manu/cald.html
Assume the .260 is equivalent to the 6.5 Swede. It basically is, factory loaded. Also, there's a lot more factory ammo available for the .260 than the old Roberts.
http://www.gzanders.com/manu/cald.html
Assume the .260 is equivalent to the 6.5 Swede. It basically is, factory loaded. Also, there's a lot more factory ammo available for the .260 than the old Roberts.
Read this:
http://www.gzanders.com/manu/cald.html
Assume the .260 is equivalent to the 6.5 Swede. It basically is, factory loaded. Also, there's a lot more factory ammo available for the .260 than the old Roberts.
http://www.gzanders.com/manu/cald.html
Assume the .260 is equivalent to the 6.5 Swede. It basically is, factory loaded. Also, there's a lot more factory ammo available for the .260 than the old Roberts.
Will Fennell
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bmars,
As usual with these things, preference between these 2 great cartridges depends on YOUR intended uses........
They both overlap as great deer rounds, but the Roberts is a bit better suited on the lightbullet/fast end of the scale as a varmit round, and the .260 is better suited for larger game and long range target shooting due to its better selection of heavier/high BC bullets.
I like the .260 better for my uses. My dad likes the Roberts better for his
bmars,
As usual with these things, preference between these 2 great cartridges depends on YOUR intended uses........
They both overlap as great deer rounds, but the Roberts is a bit better suited on the lightbullet/fast end of the scale as a varmit round, and the .260 is better suited for larger game and long range target shooting due to its better selection of heavier/high BC bullets.
I like the .260 better for my uses. My dad likes the Roberts better for his
41 magnum fan
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I have both and prefer the 257.Both are very good cartridges and both will do basically the same thing.
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
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+1 to everything that's been said, espec. this:
Interesting comparison.
Interesting comparison.
Will Fennell nails it.
Some of those high BC target bullets (A-MAX-Berger VLD)he mentioned make great deer/antelope/yotes/varmint bullets at long distance velocities making the 260 an 800 yd + game rifle. I don't personally know anybody that takes those kind of shots but the 260 can do it.
IMHO the 260 is the more versatile cartridge. Varmints are real easy to kill so you don't really need the 257s abundance of light bullets. I do wish Barnes would make a 6.5mm 100 gr TSX or TTSX like they do for the 257 though.
Will Fennell
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SAKO
SAKO and Kimber are available in .260. Also, last year Remington did a limited edition, special configuration M700, and they are still in the distribution pipeline if you look around. I'm VERY pleased with my SAKO 85 in .260.
SAKO and Kimber are available in .260. Also, last year Remington did a limited edition, special configuration M700, and they are still in the distribution pipeline if you look around. I'm VERY pleased with my SAKO 85 in .260.
tnhunter93
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The .257 Roberts is a very fine cartridge and carries a lot of respect as a fine old classic. The .260 Rem and 6.5x55 are basically ballistic twins, although the .260 does come in a S/A, if that's what you like. The 6.5x55 in the CZ 550 is a great rifle, and the single set trigger is the icing on top!
The 6.5x55 ammo is fairly easy to find and you can find lots of loads for it for both target shooting or hunting that are less expensive than ammo for the .260. Remember it is a much more popular round in Europe and lots of European companies; Prvi Partizan, Sellier & Bellot, Wolf Gold, etc. load good quality ammo for it that is very reasonably priced
Do like me and buy a .257 and a 6.5x55, don't worry about deciding!...lol.
The 6.5x55 ammo is fairly easy to find and you can find lots of loads for it for both target shooting or hunting that are less expensive than ammo for the .260. Remember it is a much more popular round in Europe and lots of European companies; Prvi Partizan, Sellier & Bellot, Wolf Gold, etc. load good quality ammo for it that is very reasonably priced
Do like me and buy a .257 and a 6.5x55, don't worry about deciding!...lol.
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Don't forget, the .260 and the 6.5x55 are ballistic twins ONLY if you don't handload, or you handload but refuse to improve the reloading book stats on the 6.5x55. Otherwise, you can load the 6.5x55 to improved performance over the .260 rem - a turnbolt can easily handle a lot more than SAAMI specs on 6.5x55.
SwampWolf
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Barrel life, muzzle blast, recoil and ammunition cost/availability are factors that come to mind. I think the better comparison is between the .257 Weatherby and the 25-06.
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Remington started the 700 CDL SF "Limited" line in 2006 with the 100th Anniversary .30-06. I got that for Christmas that year. I missed the next year (.17 Fireball), but got the .260 in 2008's 700 CDL SF Limited Edition. Then Remington goes and announces the 2009 edition is .257 Roberts. That sorta struck me as odd, given how close the .260 and .257 Roberts seem to be. I was kinda expecting (hoping for) a big game load, and am now torn with the idea of trying to complete the collection, which will require finding the Fireball and a .257 Roberts this year!
Remington started the 700 CDL SF "Limited" line in 2006 with the 100th Anniversary .30-06. I got that for Christmas that year. I missed the next year (.17 Fireball), but got the .260 in 2008's 700 CDL SF Limited Edition. Then Remington goes and announces the 2009 edition is .257 Roberts. That sorta struck me as odd, given how close the .260 and .257 Roberts seem to be. I was kinda expecting (hoping for) a big game load, and am now torn with the idea of trying to complete the collection, which will require finding the Fireball and a .257 Roberts this year!
rangerruck
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dpms also makes an evil rifle in 260.
I agonized for months over this same question....and decided on the .257 Roberts. The "classic cartridge" mystique appealed to me and I only intend to hunt deer with it. I bought the Kimber 84M Classic Select grade in .257 Roberts. Hornady has some appealing loads for the .257 Bob, and thats what I bought. It came too late this year to hunt with it, so I killed my deer with another classic, the 30-30 Win in a Model 94. Can't wait till next year to try it out!
Well from what I understand the .260 is based on a .308 Winchester case, and is a hell of a long-distance shooter. That might give you more to play with if you handload. Also, being a .308-based case means if for whatever reason you wish to change caliber, you can just rebarrel the action for anything from .243 to .358 and be good to go.
Not that I'm advocating anybody do this,... but the .257 Roberts does have a traditional quarter-bore, meaning if you ever had the mind to do it, you could theoretically buy some .25 cal airgun pellets and seat them into a case with a magnum primer and the flash hole drilled out, without powder, and plink around your back yard, possibly take crows and such. Combined with it's good performance on game, both small and medium, this to me adds versatility. I'm looking into a .257 for this reason, in addition of course to the .224 CFs
For a go-to rig for hunting deer-sized game or for putting up nice groups at the range, .260 would be my choice. The cartridge has been winning long-range competitions and people chambering their AI-AWs for it is a hell of a voucher.
For a workhorse around the farm gun that has to take varmints and deer alike, and doesn't need to do it at a kilometer, .257 Roberts would be me choice. Ammo isn't cheap for either caliber though, so for really heavy varminting I'd stick to a more conventional varmint round.
Not that I'm advocating anybody do this,... but the .257 Roberts does have a traditional quarter-bore, meaning if you ever had the mind to do it, you could theoretically buy some .25 cal airgun pellets and seat them into a case with a magnum primer and the flash hole drilled out, without powder, and plink around your back yard, possibly take crows and such. Combined with it's good performance on game, both small and medium, this to me adds versatility. I'm looking into a .257 for this reason, in addition of course to the .224 CFs
For a go-to rig for hunting deer-sized game or for putting up nice groups at the range, .260 would be my choice. The cartridge has been winning long-range competitions and people chambering their AI-AWs for it is a hell of a voucher.
For a workhorse around the farm gun that has to take varmints and deer alike, and doesn't need to do it at a kilometer, .257 Roberts would be me choice. Ammo isn't cheap for either caliber though, so for really heavy varminting I'd stick to a more conventional varmint round.
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For those who think the .257wbymag is expensive to shoot, consider this;
I don't own a single piece of .257wbymag stamped brass!
All ~100pieces I own are reformed from 7mmRemMag brass, with the exception of a single piece of .270WbyMag that I've necked down to .257 for comparison with my other brass.
Simply run a fired 7mmRemMag into the .257wbymag dies, and presto, you have a .257wbymag case, though be it that it is about .050 shorter (neck) than the "factory" brass. Means that when/if you need to trim the case length, you really should toss it in the recycle bin (5gal bucket for used-up brass.....)
Also, buy 8lbs of WC-860, or similar .50BMG surplus powder. I got mine for $25/8lbs, bought 16lbs.... Also use it in a .300RUM.
Ammo now costs' less than $0.20 a shot instead of over $2.50 each for factory ammo.
If you don't reload, and if you shoot over 20rds a year, you really should.......
BTW; my first 40 .257Robts. were reformed from range pick-ups in 7x57, 8x57, and 6mmRemington's....... Of the over 250 "Roberts" cases I have, only 120 were "bought", and those were factory loads that Walmart was "Closing out" at $2.00 a box about 17yrs ago. I still have one box of unfired. (Winchester 117gr RN "PowerPoints"..........)
The last 300 bullets I bought were some 117's that had been sitting on a gun-shop shelf for perhaps 15yrs. I bought them for 6.00/100 (2-boxes of Hornady 117gr RN's, and 1-box of 117gr BTSP's!).
My .257's (three of them) are "Cheap" to shoot!
A 6.5 would't be much different. I had another reloader "give" me parts of 4 boxes of 100gr, 120gr, 129gr, and 140gr bullets.
I guess I'll have to buy/build a 6.5 now !!! Since I can shoot it for almost free!
FWIW; Killed a beautiful "Yellow" Coyote bitch this AM with the .257wbymag. The Speer 120gr Spt. put it down bang-flop, and didn't make too big of holes in the pelt, even though I shot it at a whopping 30yds...............
I don't own a single piece of .257wbymag stamped brass!
All ~100pieces I own are reformed from 7mmRemMag brass, with the exception of a single piece of .270WbyMag that I've necked down to .257 for comparison with my other brass.
Simply run a fired 7mmRemMag into the .257wbymag dies, and presto, you have a .257wbymag case, though be it that it is about .050 shorter (neck) than the "factory" brass. Means that when/if you need to trim the case length, you really should toss it in the recycle bin (5gal bucket for used-up brass.....)
Also, buy 8lbs of WC-860, or similar .50BMG surplus powder. I got mine for $25/8lbs, bought 16lbs.... Also use it in a .300RUM.
Ammo now costs' less than $0.20 a shot instead of over $2.50 each for factory ammo.
If you don't reload, and if you shoot over 20rds a year, you really should.......
BTW; my first 40 .257Robts. were reformed from range pick-ups in 7x57, 8x57, and 6mmRemington's....... Of the over 250 "Roberts" cases I have, only 120 were "bought", and those were factory loads that Walmart was "Closing out" at $2.00 a box about 17yrs ago. I still have one box of unfired. (Winchester 117gr RN "PowerPoints"..........)
The last 300 bullets I bought were some 117's that had been sitting on a gun-shop shelf for perhaps 15yrs. I bought them for 6.00/100 (2-boxes of Hornady 117gr RN's, and 1-box of 117gr BTSP's!).
My .257's (three of them) are "Cheap" to shoot!
A 6.5 would't be much different. I had another reloader "give" me parts of 4 boxes of 100gr, 120gr, 129gr, and 140gr bullets.
I guess I'll have to buy/build a 6.5 now !!! Since I can shoot it for almost free!
FWIW; Killed a beautiful "Yellow" Coyote bitch this AM with the .257wbymag. The Speer 120gr Spt. put it down bang-flop, and didn't make too big of holes in the pelt, even though I shot it at a whopping 30yds...............
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