2nd-grader suspended for drawing of gun (merged threads)

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We would also play this game where you drew two opposing battle lines about 2 or 3 inches apart and then placing the pencil tip on one of your soldiers you quickly pushed the eraser so that the tip slid forward. If the resulting line crossed over an enemy soldier he was crossed off. Play continued until one side was out of men. No one ever bothered us about this either.
me & my friends did that too (early-1970s), except we drew complicated land masses on each end of the paper, with artillery placements on the land, and each side got a couple battleships (small ovals) and a few planes (plus signs). Each side also drew a small hut with a flag on top. Whoever's pencil mark crossed the others flag first won. You could move a ship or plane slightly forward on each of your turns, to get closer to the other's flag.

ahhh... the good old days
 
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Just what the hell are kids supposed to do in school now-a-days?

I think they're learning about global warming... saving dolphins.... and eating pudding.

I'm all for the pudding... but not so sure about the others.
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Just sit their and take your pill .
My 3 teens go to public schoot. We taught them to question athority If they belive something isn't proper they are to refuse and demand us.
That has happened a couple of times. I tell them on a lock down, their to practice the E&E They are not to be in a locked down school. To dangerous
I belive in makeing the teachers earn their money.
If you think the school hates us wrong. My wife was picked to help interview those applying for principle .
 
me & my friends did that too (early-1970s), except we drew complicated land masses on each end of the paper, with artillery

Me too. For us, it was "Japs" and "Germans" we were attacking.

But I guess that I am a little creeped out that the other person in the figure was someone the little boy knew?

There may have been an over-reaction on the part of the school, but for all our war games - which were constant - I never remember drawing/simulating attacking friend by name. We would have dirt clog wars where we divided into armies and and attacked each other - but this seems awfully personal.

That would make me a little uncomfortable.

Were your games like ours - war games, and secret agent games? Or did your drawing specify school mates by name?

Mike
 
Oh yeah, the memories.... dirt clod fights. My cousin and I used to set up little plastic army men about 20 feet apart and shoot at each other's army with low power bb guns. (more than one or two pumps and you might not find your toy soldier) You had to stay behind and to the side of your front line and the first one to knock all of the other's soldiers down won. The paper wars in school consisted of drawing your army on one side of a piece of white paper and you color a dot on your side, fold the paper in half and color the back of your dot, transferring the mark on the other side to your opponent's field. Contact with your opponent's forces resulting in scribbling out the opponent.

Yeah, real dangerous. I truely cringe when I read about this type of nonsense that is going on in our schools.
 
I think this picture is anything but threatening. So what there is a name. No doubt David is one of the kids buddies. I very well remember shooting rubber bands and spitballs at each other. Actually shooting mind you. No one ever intended any threat of death. We would also draw battles, sometimes drawing my side killing the other kid and his troops.

Oh the humanity!

The end of the world is surely coming.
 
We would also draw battles, sometimes drawing my side killing the other kid and his troops.

We drew battles, but the troops were always nameless. Did you actually writes names of your friends as the people being shot?

Yeah, we did battles, too. As I recall, we mostly shot the rubber bands with our fingers - but one time someone's dad or uncle made a plywood cut out of a gun that shot a rubber band more accurately than we could with our fingers.

Mike
 
How could anyone learn anything from an "educator" so stupid?

It's old news that the public education system was from its inception not meant to educate, but rather to condition children to be the standardized work drones that industrializing America wanted. Nothing has changed since then.

My brother always wanted to play "Matt" and said I had to be "Festis".
I'd rather play Festis.
 
Ok I don't know who Matt and Festis are but that's not the main topic :D...on the other hand i think that's so pathetic on what they did to the kid for that picture...nonsense
 
Boy, 7, Suspended For Drawing Gun On Paper

more stupidity from zero tolerance mopes.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/education/14386346/detail.html

Boy, 7, Suspended For Drawing Gun On Paper
Mother Said 7-Year-Old Drew Water Pistol

POSTED: 8:15 pm MDT October 20, 2007
UPDATED: 8:27 pm MDT October 20, 2007

DENNIS TOWNSHIP, N.J. -- A New Jersey second-grader's drawing of a stick figure shooting a gun has earned him a one-day school suspension.

The mother of 7-year-old Kyle Walker's told an Atlantic City newspaper (The Press) that her son was suspended for violating the district's zero-tolerance policy on guns. She says her son told her he'd drawn a water pistol.

Kyle gave the picture to another child on the school bus, and that child's parents complained about it to school officials.


The case is not the first in New Jersey in which students were suspended for depictions of weapons.

Four kindergarten boys were suspended in 2000 for playing cops and robbers, even though they were using their fingers as guns.
 
Calvin and Hobbes cartoons are now off limits at schools, too? How about the picture of Burr-Hamilton duel, complete with a head shot?

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Both stick figures are smiling, and the kid told his mother it was a water gun. Our country is doomed if we get a collective case of the vapors every time a 7 year old kid draws something vaguely gun-like.

He also drew King Tut, a tree, a ghost, a skateboarder, and a cyclops. It is clear (using publick skool logik) that the kid is destined to become a homicidal one-eyed ghost-hunting environmentalist egyptologist. Quick! Send in the SWAT (Social Workers And Therapists)!
 
It's not guns that a zero tolerance, it's ideas. Just more evidence that public schools are fro indoctrination, not education.
 
Don't worry Mil Dot, we'll protect you with our pictures of machine guns!!!! We drew thousands of rounds of ammo too!

Man, the price of graphite is going up now so I have to reload my own pencils to save a few bucks, and my drawings are more accurate.
 
Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton are dead white men who typify all that is wrong with this country. They resorted to force of arms because both of them took matters into their own hands instead of telling a teacher.

Burr was a typical primitive Caucasian male who helped to found the Democratic-Republican party and became the third Vice-President of the United States. The only reason we remember him today is that he was a New Yorker like Rudolph Giulani and Michael Bloomberg who was a Republican and a Democrat at the same time. As for his connection with vice, no more need be said. During Mr. Clinton's presidency he took care of providing his own vice.

Hamilton had a promising beginning because he was born in the West Indies and was a bastard too. (I refer not to his disposition, of course, but to his out-of-wedlock birth, which is fashionable today.) Benefitting from these early advantages he became one of the Constitution's framers, thus providing us with the document that give Mayors like Giulani and Bloomberg and Daley and intellectuals like Carolyn McCarthy, Adrian Fenty, Sarah Brady, and Paul Helmke to have something tangible to ignore. (Can you imagine the pathetic sight they would make if they had to wander the streets trying to find something to ignore?) With the new republic launched, Alexander Hamilton became our first Secretary of the Treasury, which was another good thing he did because it gives George Soros, Mike Bloomberg, Ted Kennedy, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama ambitions of various kinds and promise of the means to support those ambitions. They understand the needs of the poor and the powerless because they've read about them somewhere and, from time to time, look beneath their feet to see the little people beneath. Their are lots of little people who are beneath them.

It is a shame that Burr killed Hamilton instead of the other way around, but we can't have everything yet. (That's the fault of George W. Bush and the NRA. GOA is against them, of course.) But, in retrospect, it serves Hamilton right because he fought in the Revolution and we know now that fighting is bad. Guns are horrid.

So today we remember Burr and Hamilton--men who drew guns on one another--by punishing seven-year-old kids who draw guns.
 
dead white men who typify all that is wrong with this country

was a typical primitive Caucasian male

*** are you trying to say. That is one of the most racist comments I have read on this board. Bring yourself out of the muck and into the 21st (or at least the 20th) century Robert.

I expect more from the participants of this board.
 
Racist? But I'm not talking about the Indianapolis 500 or anything like that. Not that there's anything wrong with racing, it's just that we're talking about art here. Is your name Art or are you artless?

How come you ignore all the other good things I said? Why do you fixate on racing?
 
Folks: Know Thy School Laws: Zero Tolerance:

The whole matter fails the 3-prong test. Did the child:

No! 1) possess a genuine "weapon"?
No! 2) knowingly bring the "weapon"?
No! 3) bring the "weapon" with intent to do great harm?

If you can "reasonably doubt" any of these, Zero Tolerance is not met!!!!!


As a former public school administrator, I say:

1) Violation of Zero Tol. laws.
2) Violation of child's mandatory education.
3) Violation of free speech & expression.

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As a father of three school aged boys, I think this kind of BS would anger me enough to think about my own school rampage!:cuss: While I live in a state not so plagued by pansy ass school administrators and parents, You can bet there would be hell to pay if I ever was called to school for such a joke!
 
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