$3.68 Home Made Self Defense Spray

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It also means you're in violation of federal law if you spray someone in the face with it.
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would someone be so kind as to provide a link the actual federal law in question.....
 
It also means you're in violation of federal law if you spray someone in the face with it.
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No, the EPA regulation behind the "warning" is only addressing use/misuse of the pesticide in the environment. Pesticides restricted for outdoor use may not be used indoors because of their hazard to pets and people. Pesticides restricted for application to ornamental plants or to household surfaces may not be safe to apply to food plants. Because of this EPA regulates how each product may be used under the Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rodenticide Act (FIFRA) (40 C.F.R. Parts 150-189). Violation of those restrictions is illegal but only within the EPA's scope.

Spraying someone intentionally is out of the scope of the EPA regulations, but you sure could be facing criminal charges for assault with a deadly weapon if you intentionally sprayed any product labeled as dangerous for human contact (whether oven cleaner or wasp spray) in someone's face.
 
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On the can of wasp and hornet killer that I have, it clearly states under directions for use "It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling".
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It also means you're in violation of federal law if you spray someone in the face with it.
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Writing something on the side of a can of wasp spray doesn't create a law.
So ... anyone have the actual law?
(note, I'm not a fan of wasp spray or oven cleaner for SD, a handgun is safer and easier to carry, and doesn't have the risk of the crap getting on ME)
 
bigfatdave said:
Writing something on the side of a can of wasp spray doesn't create a law.
So ... anyone have the actual law?
(note, I'm not a fan of wasp spray or oven cleaner for SD, a handgun is safer and easier to carry, and doesn't have the risk of the crap getting on ME)
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Here you go:

U.S. Code said:
TITLE 7 > CHAPTER 6 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 136j

§ 136j. Unlawful acts

(a) In general

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(2) It shall be unlawful for any person—

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(G) to use any registered pesticide in a manner inconsistent with its labeling;

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Looks pretty clear cut to me.

(edited to remove the irrelevant sections and replace the proper one, as well as to add the link to the source)

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode07/usc_sec_07_00000136---j000-.html
 
See the explanation by the EPA above. And the explanation by our resident industrial safety expert and forum moderator. :rolleyes:
 
Touche'. And if a Finn describes a situation as "desperate", abandon all hope.
 
If one intends to use wasp/hornet spray or oven cleaner or any other chemical not intended for SD then they'd better darned well not tell anyone about it. If someone does break in and is sprayed then the defender had better say they only used it because it "just happened to be right there" and they "didn't even think about it"... they "just picked it up out of panic" in order to "protect his own live and those of his family". Otherwise, some unscrupulous villain-loving DA will try to scroo them.

ETA: I definitely would NOT use a home-made concoction for the above reason.
 
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No question that ammonia in the eyes would be a deterrent. But carrying it around in a squirt gun is so silly as to not warrant serious consideration. I mean, who wouldn't love to carry around a neon M9 filled with a smelly liquid that was certain to leak? Seriously. :rolleyes:
 
As an ex-maintenance splicer for a telephone company wasp stopper works on anything that walks or crawls. I always carried a case on my van and two cans in my tool bag.
 
High concentrations of ammonia will permanently damage eyes and even cause blindness. Inhaling particles of concentrated ammonia will damage your lungs, possibly killing you outright.

The OP is an EXCEPTIONALLY bad idea. Less than lethal force that leads to mayhem is a ticket to prison and a very hefty suit. DO NOT DO IT!! Particularly to save a few bucks. Lordy lordy.
 
I do not recommend this as a viable SD option, but it's a funny story.

I used to dip a lot of snuff. One day, on a long drive, I was cruising down the highway with the windows down. It was time to pop in a dip, so I grabbed a big ole pinch of Timberwolf mint. Well, I didn't notice at the time, but I was without a cup,bottle, etc. to spit into. Not wanting to throw out a fresh dip, I opted to carefully spit out of my window. That worked fairly well, until I failed to lean out far enough for the wind to catch it, and a very small amount of the tobacco juice (spit), sprayed back into my left eye and nose.

Fellows, I don't have to ever do that again. It was not as bad as getting sprayed with Freeze +P ( My friend sprayed me after I asked him to) but it was bad enough to make my eyes water, and shut for about a good minute and a half. I sat there, on the shoulder of the road, hoping that awful, burning sensation would let up enough to at least let me safely drive.

Again, not advocating that you carry a spray bottle full of expectorant. Also not advocating the use of snuff. As much as I enjoyed it, its a very nasty and hard habit to break.
 
The power company employees that service my region all carry a can of wasp/hornet spray in case they have to deal with a vicious dog. Evidentaly it does no perminant damage but is highly effective on dogs.
 
The power company employees that service my region all carry a can of wasp/hornet spray in case they have to deal with a vicious dog.
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I'm skeptical of that considering that they'd also be able to carry dog spray and wouldn't face the level of liability that wasp spray would bring. I wouldn't be surprised if the ground level guys prefer the wasp spray they carry for insects over the dog spray because of the range it provides.
 
I would never pull a toy gun. In the shadows, it can look real and get you killed. Some locals classify a toy gun being drawn as threat and will get you charged with assault. In a neighboring city a boy was killed by a LEO when the boy pulled a toy gun. It was dark. All the officer saw was a gun.

Tragic situation. Don't use toy guns.
 
JShirley,

And if a Finn describes a situation as "desperate", abandon all hope.
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There is still a glimmer of hope :). Then again, I am 25% swedish.

hso,

Ancient history, ancient history...

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About cheap means of self defence; how about spitting needles - like the shaolin... and the Ninja? Would that be legal? :scrutiny:
 
If you are in threat of death or serious injury, do what you can. Never stop fighting until the threat is over, or the lights go out.

But spitting needles would be so far down the list of things I would try...I would throw hot sauce at them, without a doubt. Habanero sauce in the eyes? That'll give you time to run or follow up with a knockout blow!
 
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...I would throw hot sauce at them, without a doubt. Habanero sauce in the eyes? That'll give you time to run or follow up with a knockout blow!
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Now, that's a great idea!! You can always say it was just sitting there on the night stand after you were through with dinner. Of course, the cops may look at you in bewilderment for having a QUART or more of habanero sauce in a pan.:D
 
My brother gave me some Daves Insanity Sauce for Christmas a few years back. It was so hot that I could not stand it, even highly diluted in chilli. It did not even have a flavor it just hurt. (this coming from someone who pours Tobasco Sauce on everything) If you squirted someone in the face with that stuff it would be as effective as any pepper spray you could buy. The problem would be in finding a reliable squirter that would not leak out in your pocket. Believe me, you do not want to get that stuff on your dangly parts.
 
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