3-on-1 home invasion turns bad for robbers.

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http://www.news10.net/news/article/222195/2/1-dead-in-Sacramento-home-invasion

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Sacramento, CA;

One robber dead, another wounded, person of interest shows up later at hospital with gunshot wounds and detained by police. Home owner also wounded in the exchange of gunfire, treated for non-life threatening injuries.

Personal notes;

3 on 1 odds is bad by anyone's book; even if you do everything right you're likely to get injured.

EDIT:

ALSO, don't drop your guard just because it's a holiday!
 
It gets better. THE GUY DEFENDED CHILDREN.


http://www.sacbee.com/2012/12/23/5072877/sacramento-resident-kills-would.html

Sacramento Police Department homicide detectives and crime scene analysts are investigating the circumstances that led to the shootout, Morse said..

"There were some juveniles in the home who didn't live there, but they were not involved in the shooting and were not injured," he said. It appears there was a sleepover, he added.

And...

http://www.kcra.com/news/local-news...7875642/-/11r4mpwz/-/index.html?absolute=true

Several frantic parents showed up to the crime scene to find the street shut down for the investigation.

One man who did not want to be identified said his 12-year-old had spent the night at the house and was there when the shooting took place.

He was waiting to pick him up.

A woman came by to pick up a 1-year-old boy in the home.
 
Aaaaand this is why I don't let soccer moms or some suit in Washington tell me how many rounds I need. You don't know what's out there.

Glad the kids were okay.
 
Hey, some soccer moms pack! You are right, though. In terms of getting attacked, your chances are roughly 25% 1 attacker, 55% 2, 20% 3, and 1% 4+. 101% total is due to rounding. I don't know the details of this shootout, but it sounds like all three men needed to be put down, and while I've never been in a shootout I'm sure that accuracy suffers when the bullets aren't on a 1-way street.

Personally, I try not to carry less than 10 rounds, and I wouldn't want a legal limit on my long guns (although I have shotguns for HD, which don't have much capacity). If I got an AR, I'd only use 20 round mags, but I'd want the option for more if I so chose.

Reggie, I will say this. The soccer moms and suits should be allowed to say how many rounds they think you need. You should also be allowed to say how many rounds YOU need and go with YOUR answer.
 
Reggie, I will say this. The soccer moms and suits should be allowed to say how many rounds they think you need. You should also be allowed to say how many rounds YOU need and go with YOUR answer.
I intend to. I think I'll go with 10, and I'll make sure to get those DIY kits where you buy a magazine and pin it yourself down to the legal limit. I solemnly swear I will comply with the law. :)
 
Glad to see a win for the good guys. The problem using this against the antis, as I see it, is that they do not see this as the desirable outcome. They believe that by you having a gun only endangers your family more. You should just let them rob you and then wish them a Merry Christmas as they exit your home with all your gifts. Everyone lives, what could be merrier?

I'll never understand their logic.

Shawn
 
reggie:
I intend to. I think I'll go with 10, and I'll make sure to get those DIY kits where you buy a magazine and pin it yourself down to the legal limit. I solemnly swear I will comply with the law.

While I see you are trying to be humorous you should be aware of the law and it sounds like you may be refering to California.
The law for magazines itself is one thing, with its own punishments.

However the law for magazines used in a gun with a 'bullet button' have bigger penalties because under CA law those are guns with legally a fixed magazine. The definition of an illegal 'assault weapon' includes any centerfire firearm with a magazine of over 10 rounds.
Violation of this statute is punishable the same under state law as having an illegal machinegun is.
10 years in prison for possession. (Possibly another 10 for manufacture?)
If I recall.
While having the same illegal magazine over 10 rounds in a gun with legally what is a 'detachable magazine' on gun without prohibited features is a lesser crime. These would be guns without a pistol grip (and other listed features.)


Now there is plenty of people with illegal assault weapons. In fact most were not registered when there was the brief window to register them.
I may even support thier defiance.
However if they were to defend themselves or thier home with such a firearm then they may be going to prison after that good shoot for illegal possession.
The same would happen if you made your own by inserting a 10+ magazine in a bullet button firearm, creating a firearm with a 'fixed' magazine over 10 rounds and an illegal assault weapon.
While removing the bullet button without making it featureless would also be creating an illegal assault weapon as well.

So the penalties in many firearms for using a magazine over 10 rounds are not the penalties for illegal possession of a magazine over 10 rounds, but the much more severe penalties of illegal possession of an assault weapon, punishable by the same prison time as having a machinegun under state law.
 
Yup! Allthough I have registered Asshalt weapons up the gazoo, what is available in the house is a CZ P01 with TRL2 light and with 3 10 round mags. I had a bullet buttoned Carbon 15 Bushy but decided the P01 will do with it's 100% head shot ability at 50 foot I developed after a few years training . ;) There is also a 10 gauge coach gun double loaded #1 Buck to get the affair going.Neither will give the DA much newsworthy incentive :)
 
The national LSM refuses to report anything good about guns used for HD and such, it is only the local media that does so. and by many of them most reluctantly.

If someone has knowledge of a national central repository printout for guns used in SD/HD, I would certainly appreciate a link to it. Monthly, the NRA prints around six of such stories in the AR and AH, but that is only a drop in the bucket for a monthly total

If there is no such repository, there certainly should be one started using only valid media and police reports for unarguable provenance. The antis constantly go with the lie that personal possession of firearms only result in death/injury for owners, family and friends etc.. With a huge print out just from the last ten years to throw back into their face, would be a great rebuttal to their lies.
 
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