30-06 for a 13 year old?

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Kachok, the .308 is popular here. also the 25-06, but it is mainly used in a kind of deer found here, because it is not the best option for the wild boar, specially here, the hogs are bigger than in many places. So I think the best alternative would be the .308, if the 30-06 recoil is too strong.
 
Yeah the 25-06 is not my first choice, not to say it could not do the job but for tough game like that I like larger calibers with heavier bullets. 308s are great too, I have one of those as well, a bit less recoil and still plenty adequate for any hog with the right bullet IMHO.
 
alfon,,

You might find the recoil of the .30-06 to be too much, IME.... the '06 has noticeably more felt recoil than any shotgun round that I have fired short of a 12 3" slug.

The .308 is more manageable, and it is another caliber that you won't grow out of. It is plenty for hogs as well.
 
If you handload/reload, the '06 is one of the most versatile chamberings out there, from powderpuff loads that have as much recoil as a .22 Magnum, to shoulder-busting thumpers

For a nice, easy shooting plinking load with just a tad more recoil than a .22 Mag, I use this recipe;
Large rifle primer, 17.9 grains of IMR Trail Boss propellant, and a 130 grain Hornady jacketed soft point bullet

No recoil worth speaking of, and a relatively quiet, as center fire rifle cartridges go, muzzle report, strictly a short range load, I wouldn't push it past 50 yards
 
Something to think about though, the largest hog killed in this region was just shy of 500kg and killed with a single well placed shot from a 7mm-08. Don't let macho talk fool you a well placed shot from a sissy kicker trumps a marginal shot from a 338 Win Mag any day. Accuracy is king, if you feel like the 06 recoil could cause you to flinch it is far better to shoot a lighter kicking cartridge. Only way to find out is to try one which I highly recommend before you go out and buy it if possible. I have been shooting high powered rifles since I a small child, now I can shoot 30-06 until my wallet hurts no problem, but in general I still prefer to hunt with my light kicking rifles unless I am targeting trophy sized large hogs.
 
the recoil between 308 and 06 is not that different.recoil is more mind over matter anyway.get the gun you want and learn to load and shoot it.the larger 30 cal bullets, say 180 to 220 grn can rattle your teeth.125 to 150 grn bullets seem to have less recoil.

a lot depends on the weight of the rifle.a nice cushion butt pad is nice as well.

if you dont have many choices get what you can and grow into it and learn how to make it work. like i said before recoil is a mental thing. it wont kill you, learn to ignore the physical pain and it will serve yu well.
 
You're right. I know a guy that sells guns, I may borrow him a 30-06 or maybe I can even get my rifle from him, he lets people try his guns before buying. And he's a friend of mine so maybe I can try it there, if it kicks to much, then a .308 will be the way to go.
 
I'm fairly certain your concern will not be that you're shooting 30-06, but rather how frequently you're shooting 30-06.

.35 Rem out of a 336 makes me start to say "ouch" if I shoot a dozen rounds in ten minutes, and then my shoulder feels it for a couple days. It's cumulative and frequency-dependent... For me anyway...
 
.30-06 will serve you well, and you can handle it no problem. If that's what you want, then go for it. I have no idea what the shooting sports are like there, so I'd recommend you base your decision on what kind of ammo you can get most often.
 
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Something to think about though, the largest hog killed in this region was just shy of 500kg and killed with a single well placed shot from a 7mm-08.[ Don't let macho talk fool you a well placed shot from a sissy kicker trumps a marginal shot from a 338 Win Mag any day. Accuracy is king, if you feel like the 06 recoil could cause you to flinch it is far better to shoot a lighter kicking cartridge. Only way to find out is to try one which I highly recommend before you go out and buy it if possible. I have been shooting high powered rifles since I a small child, now I can shoot 30-06 until my wallet hurts no problem, but in general I still prefer to hunt with my light kicking rifles unless I am targeting trophy sized large hogs.

Was this one of those domestic pigs that are turned loose from a pen and then claimed as "hogzilla the maneater" killed in the wild?

Please post a picture or 3. Surely a news link of this exist on the internets.:rolleyes:
 
My first '06, I was a meter and .75; maybe 60 kilos wringing wet. Stick out my tongue and turn sideways, I could imitate a zipper.

It wasn't the recoil as recoil; it was the steel butt plate on that 1917 Enfield that kept my skinny shoulder blue most of the summer. :D
 
I rigged up a padding with an old bath towel, which made life a lot better. :) Being summertime, I was usually bare-footed in Levis, or with maybe a tee-shirt. Can't really let a little discomfort interrupt good times...
 
A .30-06 Remington 700 BDL for a first centerfire rifle. I can tell you one thing for certain. It's going to be a long time before you need anything different. Enjoy it young man, you'll be fine with it.

I gave a .30-06 to my 11 year old grandson this fall. He's big for his age and has been hunting for a while with a single shot .223 and was saving his money for a 760 Remington. I just happened to have one. He's not bothered by the recoil, I doubt you will be either, especially when there's a pig in front of you.
 
Brian, both 30-06 and .308 are very popular here, but 30-06 costs a little bit more. A 20 round Hornady SST box in 30-06 costs 63$ and one in .308 costs 60$ the 30-06 is a bit more expensive, but I think I like it more than the .308. I don't know why because I never used it! lol
 
For that kind of money, I surely wouldn't care about recoil, because the gun wouldn't get shot enough for it to matter!

My 13yo is quite a bit smaller than you are. He is not able to handle that level of recoil, or hold up a rifle that would make it tolerable. That said, I think that if you want to shoot it, you will figure out a way to make it work. My son has a number of other choices in firearms, so we went a different route.

Pain is pain. It is not mental. I hear a lot of people espousing the opinion that recoil is mental, and I can't imagine what would make them think that. Recoil can leave bruises or worse. That isn't mental, it's not a figment of your imagination, it's a physical reality. Proper technique and mental attitude can go a long way toward mitigating the effects of recoil, but they do not turn the physical reality of it into a mental exercise. That said, recoil isn't something to be terribly concerned about in normal kicking rifles, but it is something that must be dealt with.

Besides potential injuries (bruising up to separated shoulders and nerve damage, in the wrong combination of shooter/weapon), pain also causes flinching, which destroys accuracy, so if it hurts, don't just say you handle it and put up with it. Figure out a way to make it not hurt. Technique-wise, hold it tight to your shoulder, inboard of the joint. Recoil pads, worn or on the gun, can help. Lighter loads in the same caliber, or a lighter caliber, or a heavier gun, are the other things people usually do to find a tolerable level of recoil.

If you end up with something besides a .30-06, don't worry about it. I'm a lot older and heavier guy than you, and I rarely shoot anything that kicks that hard because I just don't like it. I can shoot them, but I get a lot more enjoyment out of "sissy-kickers", as Kachok terms them.

Good luck!
 
Was this one of those domestic pigs that are turned loose from a pen and then claimed as "hogzilla the maneater" killed in the wild?

Please post a picture or 3. Surely a news link of this exist on the internets.:rolleyes:
Wrong one, you are thinking of the one killed in north Alabama, that was a canned hunt with a dommestic pig. The record I am talking about was the wild one killed in Fayette county GA.
Here is a link http://www.gon.com/article.php?id=1017
 
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