BullfrogKen
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Oh my, threw it out with the trash?
What a shame.
What a shame.
.30-06 Milsurp not reloadable?
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This is a Hornady primer pocket cutter, it's made especially for cutting that crimp out, comes in large and small. Put it in a drill and it works superbly.
This is a Ray-o-vac pocket flashlight, get 'em at WalMart for $2.98 in the sporting goods dept. Best pocket light ever for looking inside empty cases for Berdan primers, rocks, or other crud. Also outstanding for inspecting guns, bores, etc., and a million other uses. I use mine multiple times a day.
This is a Ray-o-vac pocket flashlight, get 'em at WalMart for $2.98 in the sporting goods dept. Best pocket light ever for looking inside empty cases for Berdan primers, rocks, or other crud. Also outstanding for inspecting guns, bores, etc., and a million other uses. I use mine multiple times a day.
berdan primed?
Yes, crimped primers can come out hard but your post suggests to me that you got a bunch of berdan primed cases. These can be good for making up "dummy rounds" or seating different bullets to your favorite over all length to save time in changing the adjustment of your dies but NEVER throw away brass! Save it, you would be surprised how much it's worth at the scrap yard!
Yes, crimped primers can come out hard but your post suggests to me that you got a bunch of berdan primed cases. These can be good for making up "dummy rounds" or seating different bullets to your favorite over all length to save time in changing the adjustment of your dies but NEVER throw away brass! Save it, you would be surprised how much it's worth at the scrap yard!
blarby
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Ya beat me to it.......
Guess what the Hornady tool is !
Dont that look familiar........
Will never convince me to buy a $20+ #2 phil....... With a crappy short handle, no less !
ArchAngelCD
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Hey, Great minds think alike! lolYa beat me to it.......
Guess what the Hornady tool is !
Dont that look familiar........
Will never convince me to buy a $20+ #2 phil....... With a crappy short handle, no less !
I was thinking how similar the Hornady tool looked to a #2 Philips bit when I saw the picture.
Uh, no. The Hornady tool is a cutter, nothing like a Phillips screwdriver bit. It actually cuts the brass, not just push it out of the way. It's more like an endmill, drill bit, or router bit, but it's not carbide.
I'm cheap, but I'd never use a screwdriver bit in place of a proper cutting tool.
I'm cheap, but I'd never use a screwdriver bit in place of a proper cutting tool.
ArchAngelCD
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Oh come on, we all know there is a difference between a cutter and a screwdriver.
Also, stop looking down your nose at a suggestion to use a screwdriver in the meantime before you buy a "proper" cutter. If someone's stuck it does work and does so fairly well... I'm guessing you don't think swagging tools are "proper" either?
Never used a swaging tool, but those are made for that purpose, screwdrivers aren't. I'd think the angles on a Phillips bit would be too shallow too. But yeah, it'd probably work in a pinch I guess. I know people use countersinks also, the angles on those would be better. Guess I was a machinist for too many years, and cutting metal is just in my blood.
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billj888
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.30-06 Milsurp not reloadable
I went out to the curb and retrieved my troublesome Milsurp brass just ahead of the recycle truck. Thanks for all the encouragement on this thread. By this PM I should have snapped all my extra decapping pins and stripped the threads on the collet nut. Then I will proceed to size the primer hole with a #2 Phillips, a sharp knife and a pocket reamer. Hope it's worth it. Still have some unfired Milsurp with '42 and '43 head stamps. They're the worst.
I went out to the curb and retrieved my troublesome Milsurp brass just ahead of the recycle truck. Thanks for all the encouragement on this thread. By this PM I should have snapped all my extra decapping pins and stripped the threads on the collet nut. Then I will proceed to size the primer hole with a #2 Phillips, a sharp knife and a pocket reamer. Hope it's worth it. Still have some unfired Milsurp with '42 and '43 head stamps. They're the worst.
morcey2
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A wee bit bitter today? You've got what many consider to be excellent brass and you're using the exact same tool for decapping that I (among many others) use quite successfully and you're pissed that someone said "Hey, don't toss that. It's still useful" ?
Wow
KansasSasquatch
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You can do that if you want.
OR you could spend $15 on a Lee universal decapping die. Set it using a piece of non-crimped primer pocket .30-06 brass, then tighten the collet nut down. It will punch those primers right out without much risk of breaking or damaging anything.
I've personally had a few pieces of berdan primed 7.62x54R brass mixed in with my good PRVI boxer primed brass. The Lee universal decapper was strong enough to punch through the berdan anvil and knock the primer out, creating a 3rd hole in the primer pocket. If you can manage to damage a Lee universal decapper then there is something seriously wrong with your process. You can use the #2 bit until you can get a proper pocket reamer or swager.
OR you could just sell the brass. There's plenty of people that actually prefer once fired military brass with the spent primers in place because the primer crimp is near 100% proof that it is indeed once fired. Chances are you won't make enough money from it to replace it all with new commercial brass, but you can make enough to get some commercial brass. Seeing as you were just going to throw the mil-surp brass out anyways, any brass you can buy with the money is a bonus. But if you just scrap it chances are it's just going to get shipped to China anyways...... just ask any recycler that won't accept spent casings. Those recyclers normally don't accept them because they can't ship them intact and it's not worth their trouble to melt it down. The recyclers that will accept casings have the ability to melt it down or they sell it here in the US without melting it.
JohnM
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Probably depends if the guy is going to have a big supply of that old military '06 brass to process.
A universal depriming die and a primer pocket swagger would be worthwhile then.
A good supply of that old brass, especially as freebies, would be nice to have.
A universal depriming die and a primer pocket swagger would be worthwhile then.
A good supply of that old brass, especially as freebies, would be nice to have.
1KPerDay
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That's what I do. I've had no trouble depriming full ring-crimped .30-06 military brass from every US manufacturer. Standard Lee sizing die, RCBS heavy duty decapping die, Lyman universal decapping die. All work for me.
blarby
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Ditto..... More on .308 than .30-06, but the primer ain't different.....
Ya. That blunt square edge looks NOTHING like my screwdriver. Lol...
50 Shooter
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Yeah, if you don't want the brass PM me and we can work out a deal while we're working out a deal on that troublesome surplus ammo. My 1903 likes to shoot it and my reloading tools like to recondition it to reload and use again.
Seriously, I'll take it if you don't want it PM me.
Seriously, I'll take it if you don't want it PM me.
shinz
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I've had considerable success taking off the remains of primer crimps, both annular & stab with a case neck chamfer tool like this.https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/9086/10h/origin-d4.scene7.com/is/image/GanderMountainOvertons/424775_L1?$product$
+1 on the recommendation for a Lee decapping die, so much more convenient to decap, then clean, then full length or neck size with getting all that crud in your sizing dies & definitely the goods for crimped in ex mil primers. I've also used them to carefully push out primers when dismantling loads. Easier to be more controllable than with a sizing dies decap & I've never had one pop on me, even so I always where rigger gloves & safety specs.
Steve.
+1 on the recommendation for a Lee decapping die, so much more convenient to decap, then clean, then full length or neck size with getting all that crud in your sizing dies & definitely the goods for crimped in ex mil primers. I've also used them to carefully push out primers when dismantling loads. Easier to be more controllable than with a sizing dies decap & I've never had one pop on me, even so I always where rigger gloves & safety specs.
Steve.
Certaindeaf
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Well at least you redeemed yourself and went out grubbing in that trash bin.
If you have any troubles with that brass, most of us here have been there and might be able to help you.
I just trim/cut mine with a small sharp knife.
If you have any troubles with that brass, most of us here have been there and might be able to help you.
I just trim/cut mine with a small sharp knife.
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